Fulke Walwyn KIM MUIR Challenge Cup Amateur Riders Handicap

[jono]

The Irish (well some of) have been making a mockery of the marks given to them by the UK handicapper for several seasons now though?
It's not specific to the last year.
Presenting Percy, A Plus Tard a couple off the top of my head.
There's always the odd one or two hard done by stories but on the whole they haven't gone mad the last few years.
I personally don't see this year being one where they hike up the Irish runners significantly.

 

[archie]

I thought that the Irish handicapper issued updates on Monday afternoon. Where were the new marks for Coko Beach and Run Wild Fred published?

 

[Quevega]

I thought that the Irish handicapper issued updates on Monday afternoon. Where were the new marks for Coko Beach and Run Wild Fred published?

On the Irish handicap official site.
I was surprised too.
maybe he had the day spare cos of abandoning fairyhouse

 

[Pendil]

I thought that the Irish handicapper issued updates on Monday afternoon. Where were the new marks for Coko Beach and Run Wild Fred published?

Its in the overall one Archie not the weekly one, caught me out too

 

[archie]

Its in the overall one Archie not the weekly one, caught me out too

Cheers P and Q (maybe you should go into business together).

 

[Winging The Last]

We'll that's Escaria Ten's mark blown for this

 

[Pendil]

We'll that's Escaria Ten's mark blown for this

Makes School Boy Hours OR of 135 look lenient. Hopefully not put up for staying in his stable

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Makes School Boy Hours OR of 135 look lenient. Hopefully not put up for staying in his stable

Not for the first time now for SBH. Not that I've mentioned him at all :highly_amused:

 

[Pendil]

Not for the first time now for SBH. Not that I've mentioned him at all :highly_amused:

:friendly_wink:Any concern about no entries/lack of a run since early December. Hopefully an egg and spoon maiden chase in February.
I went back in again after todays run by EDR, 33/1 still with B365. Only have 2 handicaps covered so far as I usually wait for wider NRNB and entries before getting too involved

 

[ComplyOrDie]

:friendly_wink:Any concern about no entries/lack of a run since early December. Hopefully an egg and spoon maiden chase in February.
I went back in again after todays run by EDR, 33/1 still with B365. Only have 2 handicaps covered so far as I usually wait for wider NRNB and entries before getting too involved

Yeah, no entries or nothing. Can look at it a couple of ways I guess, either they think he's well in off his current mark so don't want to risk losing it or worst case, he has an issue of some sort.

Hopefully the former.

 

[Kevloaf]

Was just looking at Livelovelaugh randomly, who is a 'he', I thought he was a she all my life?! (Not that this horse has come into my life very often, but been to about 4 festivals already so I'm surprised I didn't know that) He went off 16/1 with Patrick Mullins on in this race in 2019. That surprises me....as I didn't think any Willie/Patrick combo would go off that big this race


....so I had a look.....


2009 - no runner
2010 - no runner
2011 - 14/1 - Pomme Tiepy (5th) (Katie Walsh)
2012 - 8/1 - Up The Beat (4th) (Patrick)
2013 - 12/1 - Vesper Bell (7th) (Patrick)
2014 - 9/1 - Balnaslow (4th) (Patrick)
2015 - no runner
2016 - 14/1 - Sambremont (8th) (Patrick)
2017 - no runner
2018 - no runner
2019 - 16/1 - Livelovelaugh (12th)- (Patrick)
2020 - 40/1 - Cabaret Queen (15th) (Patrick rode Fitzhenry instead for a different trainer)


Thought I'd post this thought to try and remind me that I probably don't need to try and spot a Willie Mullins plot for this race ante post to eek out the value or potential shortener, as there just might not be one!

 

[charlie]

Run Wild Fred +4 to 140.
Coko +12 to 152

 

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Run Wild Fred +4 to 140.
Coko +12 to 152

Was actually released Saturday, guessing you missed the multiple pages discussing this...haha

 

[Quevega]

Run Wild Fred +4 to 140.
Coko +12 to 152

And it's 150 for Coko.

 

[charlie]

Was actually released Saturday, guessing you missed the multiple pages discussing this...haha

Good guess :surprise:

 

[Pendil]

Jerrysback has taken my eye. Nice 3rd yesterday from 599 days off. Hopefully gets left on 142.

Word of warning Pik
I got a copy of Mark Howards February update yesterday. He quotes Philip Hobbs
"The plan for Jerrysback has always been the Racing Post chase" race on 27th Feb.

 

[Madmoose]

Word of warning Pik
I got a copy of Mark Howards February update yesterday. He quotes Philip Hobbs
"The plan for Jerrysback has always been the Racing Post chase" race on 27th Feb.

Yep plus Hobbs does not like this horse running left handed.

 

[FrenchHolly]

Gordon Elliott has four entered in the Musselburgh National on Saturday all have ran recently so just wants to see what their English marks are?

 

[Ray]

Gordon Elliott has four entered in the Musselburgh National on Saturday all have ran recently so just wants to see what their English marks are?

Ive noticed hes enetered eskylane for the scottish county..hes most likely looking at his options

 

[Ray]

Hes enetered a few actually!