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Fred Winter 2018

doctorwu said:
Im expecting Farclas to contest, go close, in the Triumph Hurdle.
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Can't see it personally. But we will soon find out in the spring juvenile if he can put it up to espoir d'allen, stormy ireland. Mr adjudicator. Will he come in for his run. Or was he flattered under a patient ride by letting the others doing the donkey work and trying to come with 1 run to no avail.
 
Espoir D'allen form stacks up every way you look at it. ED my main bet for the Triumph with Farclas as a danger. That'll do for me. I could pick the winner of every race if I backed 15 horses.
 
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doctorwu said:
Espoir D'allen form stacks up every way you look at it. ED my main bet for the Triumph with Farclas as a danger. That'll do for me. I could pick the winner of every race if I backed 15 horses.
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Not true. Getabird was the 16th horse i'd backed for the Supreme this year the other day, so if he wins backing 15 horses would have done me no good at all in that race :highly_amused: Still turn a slight profit for that race if one of the top 4 or 5 in the betting win, so it's more about the stakes and the prices for me rather than number of horses when trying to gain a profit
 
Robbante said:
Not true. Getabird was the 16th horse i'd backed for the Supreme this year the other day, so if he wins backing 15 horses would have done me no good at all in that race :highly_amused: Still turn a slight profit for that race if one of the top 4 or 5 in the betting win, so it's more about the stakes and the prices for me rather than number of horses when trying to gain a profit
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Care to share the list of the 16? Out of genuine interest!
 
Robbante said:
Not true. Getabird was the 16th horse i'd backed for the Supreme this year the other day, so if he wins backing 15 horses would have done me no good at all in that race :highly_amused: Still turn a slight profit for that race if one of the top 4 or 5 in the betting win, so it's more about the stakes and the prices for me rather than number of horses when trying to gain a profit
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Rob,
I'd reavaluate your style of betting :devilish:
 
In order of biggest winner to smallest, any of the top 6 turn a slight profit

SHARJAH
NEXT DESTINATION
IF THE CAP FITS
CLAIMANTAKINFORGAN
MENGLI KHAN
GETABIRD
SLATE HOUSE
REAL STEEL
SAMCRO
WORLD PREMIER
OK CORRAL
RED JACK
KALASHNIKOV
VISION DES FLOS
DELIRANT
EPICURIS
 
doctorwu said:
Rob,
I'd reavaluate your style of betting :devilish:
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That's just one race that hasn't worked out well this year, haven't that many horses in any other race. Considering it hasn't played out well i'm more than happy that it's still likely to show a profit
 
Robbante said:
In order of biggest winner to smallest, any of the top 6 turn a slight profit

SHARJAH
NEXT DESTINATION
IF THE CAP FITS
CLAIMANTAKINFORGAN
MENGLI KHAN
GETABIRD
SLATE HOUSE
REAL STEEL
SAMCRO
WORLD PREMIER
OK CORRAL
RED JACK
KALASHNIKOV
VISION DES FLOS
DELIRANT
EPICURIS
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Rob,
Next Destination could still end up here, as could Samcro.
 
doctorwu said:
Rob,
Next Destination could still end up here, as could Samcro.
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I hope Next Destination does but can't see it now. Samcro ballymore i'd win more, and also have him in a couple of multiples for that race
 
Robbante said:
That's just one race that hasn't worked out well this year, haven't that many horses in any other race. Considering it hasn't played out well i'm more than happy that it's still likely to show a profit
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Ive backed 4 different horses for the Supreme, which is a lot for me. Ive cashed out 2 with 365 which has been very welcome. It was a costly race for me last year so hoping I have a change of luck this year in the race. Im happy with my 2 selections. I might add ND before the Dublin Festival.
 
doctorwu said:
Ive backed 4 different horses for the Supreme, which is a lot for me. Ive cashed out 2 with 365 which has been very welcome. It was a costly race for me last year so hoping I have a change of luck this year in the race. Im happy with my 2 selections. I might add ND before the Dublin Festival.
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It reached the point for me where I either carried on going and pretty much guaranteed myself the winner at a small profit or even slight loss, or took a probable loss on the chin. Claimantakinforgan and Sharjah were 2 of the first 4 horses i backed for the supreme from memory, but i took stock a few days ago and realised i could still add Getabird and turn a slight profit so took the plunge. Although initially wanting Getabird to then win so as not to see it as a wasted addition, i am now just looking at my book and what it will return again. Bit annoying that my two biggest winners Sharjah and Next Destination are both probably more likely to take in the Ballymore
 
Robbante said:
It reached the point for me where I either carried on going and pretty much guaranteed myself the winner at a small profit or even slight loss, or took a probable loss on the chin. Claimantakinforgan and Sharjah were 2 of the first 4 horses i backed for the supreme from memory, but i took stock a few days ago and realised i could still add Getabird and turn a slight profit so took the plunge. Although initially wanting Getabird to then win so as not to see it as a wasted addition, i am now just looking at my book and what it will return again. Bit annoying that my two biggest winners Sharjah and Next Destination are both probably more likely to take in the Ballymore
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I'm pretty confident ND goes straight to the ballymore now.
Samcro obviously won't go here. Which is good for you anyway.
But I'd be very Hopefuly you have the winner in there.
 
Scooby91 said:
I'm pretty confident ND goes straight to the ballymore now.
Samcro obviously won't go here.
But I'd be very Hopefuly you have the winner in there.
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A similar scattergun approach last year paid off massively in this race as i had Labaik at 50s. But it hasn't worked out well this year so if damage limitation still turns a small profit i'd be delighted. Take it and move on to better books elsewhere. Is Samcro likely to go for the deloitte? Saw it touted earlier but thought the 2m 6 race was more likely. If he goes for the deloitte and easily beats Sharjah and others then they might think twice
 
Robbante said:
A similar scattergun approach last year paid off massively in this race as i had Labaik at 50s. But it hasn't worked out well this year so if damage limitation still turns a small profit i'd be delighted. Take it and move on to better books elsewhere. Is Samcro likely to go for the deloitte? Saw it touted earlier but thought the 2m 6 race was more likely. If he goes for the deloitte and easily beats Sharjah and others then they might think twice
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Id imagine he would go for the easiest race depending on the opposition, thats why hes entered in the 3 races at leopardstown. The 2m 6 race looks the plan atm.
 
SAMCRO said:
Id imagine he would go for the easiest race depending on the opposition, thats why hes entered in the 3 races at leopardstown. The 2m 6 race looks the plan atm.
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Fair enough looking at it that way I suppose. I think he’s got the pace for 2 miles and a lot of trainers would be of the opinion with novices not to up them in trip until it’s necessary. Just hope it’s doesn’t echo of death duty last year for Elliott. I think he’ll beat Next Destination in the Ballymore given how close Cracking Smart got to ND last time (and he definitely seems a stayer). On the blind side could be tougher to crack
 
Sao a sea of blue on oddschecker. Good to see!

Ok 'sea' may have been slightly exaggerating :highly_amused:
 
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Dr Bartolo
The blues master.
Aiguille rouge
Style de garde
Mitchouka
Farclas

Of the ones who have ran would be high up my shortlist. Marks of the top 3 are very lenient.

Loads of horses that haven't ran over here yet could be thrown in with silly ratings.
 
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Can't Catch Me said:
Sao a sea of blue on oddschecker. Good to see!

Ok 'sea' may have been slightly exaggerating :highly_amused:
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Haha, the 25/1 with WH is probably worth taking if you fancied him still... rather than 20/1 with 365 NRNB

Can't see him being thrown in to the Triumph unless her perhaps debuted in the Adonis and won it well! - which I don't expect.
 
Am I right in thinking you need a minimum of 3 runs to be eligible for the race? So Sao would need to get a run in beforehand and couldn't do a 'Diego' and go straight there?

(Obviously NRNB takes the risk away)
 
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