Fat Jockey Podcast - Handicap Entries

[jono]

This week Spectre and myself take a look at each of the handicap races post entries.
Running through some trends for each and a general shortlist of horses that we like.
Kevloaf couldn't give any mention to Ginto this week. So didn't bother turning up.

Over 2 and half hours total, so we've split them out this week by race.
Let us know if this is beneficial or you prefer the whole thing in one?

First 2 days are up below, and i'll add the Thursday and Friday handicaps this afternoon.

Thanks as always for listening :encouragement:

Ultima

Boodles

Coral

Grand Annual

Pertemps

Plate

Kim Muir

County

Martin Pipe

 

[Quevega]

The threeunderthrufive entry is interesting especially alongside the Frodon one.
nicholls says he’s not a placeholder- and I reckon he’s bullshitting.
he does not want to run 3 under in the rsa for sure
And the ultima would be a compromise especially if the owners lose one of their other entrants
the weight he’d carry due to frodon running would be a persuasive factor. As would does he know being currently favourite due to the form line.
still wouldn’t back it mind you.
novice over 150 is rarely my cup of tea

 

[Kevloaf]

:highly_amused: I'd have gone Hollow Games in the Martin Pipe as a link to Ginto jono


Looking forward to listening to these over the weekend.

 

[Eggs]

….cheers lads, as usual very informative. Be interesting how the weights impact those shortlists.

 

[jono]

Quick bump to say all handicap races now added to post 1

 

[doctorwu]

Just watched the handicaps as my Saturday morning entertainment. Superb lads. Well done.

 

[BigChaang]

Just Listening now , Good stuff Chap's , Thank's for your effort's here :encouragement:.
Be nice if you Give us 1 pick each . - Best h/cap shot. in the final vid.:bull_head:.:love_heart:.
p.s. ... I like the idea of breaking this down into single podcasts for each race ....:star:.

 

[The Giant Bolster]

Thanks for this - I liked the format of splitting videos for races.

I had a question generally. How does everyone prepare for the weights announcement? What prep do you do to make the right decisions quickly? I'm interested how everyone approaches this.

 

[Spectre]

For me it’s shortlists like the podcasts GB. I’ve added a handful more now I’ve had more time. Because of the 24hr BHA delay we had very little prep time for this Podcast. I’ve since done a lot more analysis, and I’m comfortable with the lists I’m working from. In most cases 12 to 14 horses from the total entry.

When the weights are announced I’ll be cramming to make sure I get the bets down I want as quickly as possible, and then I’ll deal with any infill for those I’ve missed.

I can’t join the Podcast next week because of other commitments, but I intend to put up just one or two for each race and hopefully Kev and Jono will cover them for me.

 

[The Giant Bolster]

Thanks Spectre . Look forward to hearing your selections.

Ahead of the weights do you have your own ratings in mind worked out for your short list and then see if they are higher or lower?

 

[Spectre]

I frame a race with those I’ve shortlisted and then go through my usual selection process, which takes in a whole host of factors including trends, statistics, race reading. I also apply OR’s, RPR’s and my own ratings. Ultimately when I’ve whittled down to much fewer horses I rely on my base knowledge and feel for the race, how it’ll be run, and the run style of said horses. Most of the handicaps are won by horses that fit certain types, and I’ll perhaps end up with a very small number of horses that fit each of them, and I’ll decide from there which I think is the best overall fit.

 

[Clinker]

Thoroughly enjoyed the videos, and breaking them down sectional really helps. Keep up the great work, as a newby I find all this knowledge sharing unbelievable helpful.

 

[Geegees]

Fair play to you guys doing these and I’m sure some found these helpful but to improve the appeal to a bigger market and advertise the forum more then they are pretty lengthy and can get disengaging whilst noting 9-12 horses on a shortlist for one race just isn’t helpful.

Appreciate the handicaps pre-weights are tough but maybe that topic should have just waited a week until more information was revealed

 

[Stormez]

Is there going to be a post weights handicap pod?

 

[Kevloaf]

Is there going to be a post weights handicap pod?

Recording one Friday evening :encouragement:

 

[Stormez]

Recording one Friday evening :encouragement:

Beautiful!

 

[Kevloaf]

Fair play to you guys doing these and I’m sure some found these helpful but to improve the appeal to a bigger market and advertise the forum more then they are pretty lengthy and can get disengaging whilst noting 9-12 horses on a shortlist for one race just isn’t helpful.

Appreciate the handicaps pre-weights are tough but maybe that topic should have just waited a week until more information was revealed

Thanks Geegees

This does come up every now and again... my personal opinion is that they're for "us" to enjoy rather than be a huge marketing tool to attract more people. The organic growth we have at the moment is already great and there is just so much content (and great content) out there in all kinds of formats, we do what we enjoy most (which happens to be longer than the average podcast)

I haven't had chance to listen to all the podcasts yet myself, knowing how long it'd be! so understand what you're saying for sure. :highly_amused:


The whole thing can be improved, I don't think it should be taken too seriously right now, I think it's better than if we didn't do it, and who knows where it'll end up... so appreciate the feedback and hope my thoughts on it make sense :smile-new:

 

[Geegees]

Kevloaf Yeah fair play completely understood and I have enjoyed the debates Just would not want anything to take away from the great forum we have at present

 

[Kautostar]

Enjoy the podcasts and watching when I can however I do feel sometimes they are too long. The UTA show is about right imo at around the 45-mins to an hour mark any longer and it gets hard having the spare time to watch in full. Maybe if one person took on the “host” role and ushered conversations onto the next topic with one eye on the clock would work better going forward. Just my feedback, good effort guys and I look forward to watching more in the future.

 

[Exar Essay]

Must admit, I enjoy the length. Have long drives and dog walks etc. to fill and really enjoy the in depth analysis on offer. It's a genuine discussion from well informed people. Maybe I'd have a different opinion if I watched rather than just listened.