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Cheltz Fest 2021 Behind Closed Doors ?

Michael Gove said this morning that trials of crowds at sports events will be paused
 
Not good at all Ista
 
interesting that this latest crisis coincides with Cummings trying to smuggle an extension to emergency powers through Parliament. Also, the Internal Market Bill that breaks international law.
 
I’m sure there are strong political games that take place archie but I fear for the future of my way of life, racecourses and other sporting arenas are already in a disastrous position and this could be the final nail for many venues/clubs...
 
EnvoyAllen said:
I’ll give you odds of 1/4 that unless you’re a member, you ain’t getting in at next year’s festival in a little shorter than 6 months time.

And in 3 months time those odds will look like the best bet of 2020.
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I think Boris’ speech in the House of Commons a few mins ago has made my 1/4 odds I offered anybody 2 hours ago just about the best value bet they’d have taken this year.

Members only folks next year.

And that still might not include them exclusively.
 
EnvoyAllen said:
I think Boris’ speech in the House of Commons a few mins ago has made my 1/4 odds I offered anybody 2 hours ago just about the best value bet they’d have taken this year.

Members only folks next year.

And that still might not include them exclusively.
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Corporate and Hospitality before members clearly
 
Lobos said:
Corporate and Hospitality before members clearly
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I doubt that would happen.
There would be uproar if members weren't first in (when permitted), alongside a contained number for each race sponsor.
 
Saxon Warrior said:
I doubt that would happen.
There would be uproar if members weren't first in (when permitted), alongside a contained number for each race sponsor.
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Money talks . Always does.
 
Saxon Warrior said:
Not always.

None of my football clubs hospitality boxes were favoured over any season ticket holders, in any ballot for matchday tickets for reduced crowds.
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Strange one really as much easier to social distance in boxes and hospitality tents. Hope you are right as I'm now a member but I have my doubts.
 
Lobos said:
Strange one really as much easier to social distance in boxes and hospitality tents. Hope you are right as I'm now a member but I have my doubts.
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I assume you’ve never been in the Cheltenham hospitality boxes, on lev 5 the boxes are generally about 8 feet wide and 20 feet deep with a balcony less than half that size.
These boxes were refurbished a few years ago but were built when the main stand (Club) was built in the 60s, they aren’t made up of demountable partitioning like many modern venues where the walls can move.
Outdoors has been proved safer than indoors and the reason the government are panicking now is because the weather is about to change and people are about to spend far more time inside.
All in all not good news...
 
Lobos said:
Strange one really as much easier to social distance in boxes and hospitality tents. Hope you are right as I'm now a member but I have my doubts.
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Boxes are too small to socially distance any number of people.

If football clubs favoured them, the short term-gain in opening them, and denying more ordinary season ticket holders from going would not be what any football club would seek to do to its fans.

I'm sure it would be similar for Cheltenham and their members.

The real problem isn't this, its when anyone can go to sports stadia to watch anything, and be considered safe while they are there.
 
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I was supposed to be buying my membership today but after this news, I’ll be holding off for a while.

Can’t see even 10,000 members being allowed in with this no fans and the other restrictions they announced being a 6-month thing.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I was supposed to be buying my membership today but after this news, I’ll be holding off for a while.

Can’t see even 10,000 members being allowed in with this no fans and the other restrictions they announced being a 6-month thing.
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I can understand that decision MOM.

There are refunds of membership set out if October, November and December are cancelled.

They haven't set out January onwards yet.

Of course if they can't supply attendance at their track at all in the season then then they are liable to repay everything to you in Consumer Law.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I was supposed to be buying my membership today but after this news, I’ll be holding off for a while.

Can’t see even 10,000 members being allowed in with this no fans and the other restrictions they announced being a 6-month thing.
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I wouldn’t let that put you off MoM.
Absolutely no question members will get priority when gates re-open and the industry will be doing everything possible to ensure that is for the festival, as indeed will those who have an interest in the Cheltenham economy.

There’s an argument membership is better value now as you’ll be given a cash value refund for the meetings you won’t be allowed to attend and may not have even considered attending...
 
Saxon Warrior said:
I can understand that decision MOM.

There are refunds of membership set out if October, November and December are cancelled.

They haven't set out January onwards yet.

Of course if they can't supply attendance at their track st all in the season then then they are liable to repay everything to you in Consumer Law.
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That true Saxon but as a student, I think I’d rather have the money temporarily in my pocket than theirs when my genuine belief at this moment is that it’ll be behind closed doors.

That deliberate line from Boris of ‘we should assume these restrictions will be in place for 6 months unless a significant change occurs’ makes me now, for the very first time, believe that the festival will have no fans at all. Also think it’s terrible news for many football clubs outside of the premier league.
 
Istabraq said:
I wouldn’t let that put you off MoM.
Absolutely no question members will get priority when gates re-open and the industry will be doing everything possible to ensure that is for the festival, as indeed will those who have an interest in the Cheltenham economy.

There’s an argument membership is better value now as you’ll be given a cash value refund for the meetings you won’t be allowed to attend and may not have even considered attending...
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I hadn’t thought of that aspect. In December, does anyone think a membership will be cheaper if a few of the meetings have been and gone? Or would it still be the full price? I might email to ask.
 
Crazy to think Germany are stepping up spectators in grounds/arenas and we are doing the opposite. Who's got it horribly wrong I wonder.
 
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