I thought god told you EE was going to win but know your telling me the rapture is coming.... FFS, I had a holiday booked for that Saturday... bet I won't get my deposit back..
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Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.
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I thought god told you EE was going to win but know your telling me the rapture is coming.... FFS, I had a holiday booked for that Saturday... bet I won't get my deposit back..
Without wanting to get off on the wrong foot, be careful posting opinion (jovial or not) as fact. Certainly before people know how credible you are.
You may not be aware, but we have some members who have an active interest/association with horses you're posting about and I feel it's important that the posts we have are credible, and backed up.
If in your opinion Percy goes stayers, Kemboy goes Ryanair etc, then please state it is your opinion rather than it being perceived as fact.
Wasting time reading about people arguing about ill-founded opinion isn't how I like to spend my free-time.
Thanks in advance.
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They have watered betweens race days in the past and I would expect that to continue if we get s dry couple of weeks. EE isn't for me though
The King Pimm
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Has anyone heard or read anything up to date about Might Bites progress and condition? He’s drifted to a very attractive double figure price. He’s got an impressive record at Cheltenham. Could it be the case he doesn’t run well at Haydock or Kempton and he’s still a very live chance?? He’s not been mentioned much since the start of the year and came 2nd last year in unsuitable conditions, this drying weather maybe what he needs to restart his stalling career. I personally think he’s tougher than many are giving him credit for and if he continues to drift he maybe far too tempting to leave alone.
Would be his biggest price on the day I'd guess?
Nicky will definitely give an update at some stage though TKP so I wouldn't take action yet if you do like him
The King Pimm
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I cashed out on what bets I did have MB involved with last month for small losses but still keen to back him as he’s too good a horse at the current prices not to if he’s fit and ready to go for the GC. It’s bonkers that one year on he’s almost considered a no hoper given that he’s not fallen this season nor reported to have any obvious injuries except having a minor wind op?? I’m holding out for an update from NH but intrigued at his current price given what he’s capable of and for just the love of the horse will probably back him e/w even if he keeps drifting because like Conygree I can’t help but believe he’s got another massive run in him.
If you watch his races this season it's hard to think he's the same horse though? Is the price big enough for him to bounce back, if that's your only bet in the race?
Not many horses improve at 10, and not many manage to win a Gold Cup at the second attempt - there just always seems to be an up-and-comer... and this year looks like that's the case again in my opinion.
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urrent price given what he’s capable of and for just the love of the horse will probably back him e/w even if he keeps drifting because like Conygree I can’t help but believe he’s got another massive run in him.
Sorry to shatter your belief but ConeyTREE retired on Saturday and Might Bite should probably follow him.
Sorry to shatter your belief but ConeyTREE retired on Saturday and Might Bite should probably follow him.
The King Pimm
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What you’re saying is right Kev especially the age and 2nd efforts at the GC as the stats back it up and the odds reflect MB’s chance but I’ll be given him another go if he turns up on the day, he’s too unpredictable not to back and he’s more capable than most.
Elegantly Tasted, I did know Coneygree had retired on the weekend, I was making reference to backing him on his few appearances since his Gold Cup win.
Elegantly Tasted, I did know Coneygree had retired on the weekend, I was making reference to backing him on his few appearances since his Gold Cup win.
charlie
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Feels like the year for a 'non obvious' one. I would love PP to win but he will have to be a superstar to given the prep (not ruling it out). Can't have CDO on my mind. Won a weak KG, then won a 4 runner race at 2/5 and is now 9/2. Did little to enhance his credentials for this and his Cheltenham form reads 2622. Native River needs the heavens to open and I'd question his calibre to make it back to back. Kemboy is interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if he won. That being said, I think his jumping and the track will count against him. I would love Road To Respect to win it but is he good enough at the top level. I hope they send ABP because I think if an 'outsider' wins it, it will be him or Bellshill.
From his two runs this season, I’m afraid he looks gone at this distance. He was one of my favourite horses last year so it’s a big shame.
Unfortunately Gold Cups have a habit of wrecking horses, especially the classier, non-gnarly types. Look at Might Bite, Sizing John, even Coneygree struggled to hold it together afterwards. It was simply a brutal race in the ground last year and, from the way he’s finishing out his races, I don’t think Might Bite wants to go there again. Sometimes it’s just the following season the effects are evident, but by the time the horse is showing some positive signs, the nature of the GC means age is not on your side and you are vulnerable to the new kid of the block. IMO these horses would still have great chances in a Ryanair, but nobody wants to send a Gold Cup horse there, and we as punters need to drop our sentimentalities
I wouldn’t rule out Gordy to bring Shattered Love back to form, especially if there was a bit of juice in the ground. Been his No#1 from start of the season
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3 of CDO's Cheltenham runs came when he was a 5yo or younger. His form then was a little in and out. He still got close to a very good + experienced horse in Whisper at Cheltenham.
The track wouldn't bother me at all. Terrefort is a good horse, but he did basically set it up for CDO rather easily, probably the result of a small field with 2 no hopers in it.
Either way, CDO is justifying Nicholl's belief that he is a very good horse. He's turned a corner, and i think he's the one to beat.
The track wouldn't bother me at all. Terrefort is a good horse, but he did basically set it up for CDO rather easily, probably the result of a small field with 2 no hopers in it.
Either way, CDO is justifying Nicholl's belief that he is a very good horse. He's turned a corner, and i think he's the one to beat.
ComplyOrDie
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Would agree with all of this regarding Might Bite.
I think the race is harder this year too. Might Bite was one of my main starting points for the renewal this season, but ultimately he looks done for me. He hasn't enjoyed one outing this season, and if he were to show up the same in the Gold Cup I'd have him retired if I were the owner. It's not as if he hasn't given them some glory days. No horse should be racing that doesn't enjoy it IMO.
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You can take ratings how you like, personally I use them, but on a small scale, and don't form the basis of many an opinion around them, however 169 for Bellshill :triumphant: Puts him still over priced on them ratings!