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Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

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Do we think that Road to Riches has become error prone and can't be seriously considered for this now ?
 
Istabraq said:
Do we think that Road to Riches has become error prone and can't be seriously considered for this now ?
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Road to respect has big chance imo. They go a completely different clip in the gold cup with horses around him, he's better jumping at pace When you make his mind up for him. He has a mistake in him, but he's actually very clever at sorting himself out , he never looks like falling.
 
bobbyvalentino said:
I'd be more worried about dropping him into a Gold Cup straight from the retirement stud...
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Quite right !
Road to Respect obviously.

Good point Scooby about jumping at racing speed, plenty of horses make errors when not going a proper gallop.
That said, I'm not convinced he enhanced his chances today...
 
I thought Bellshill did a tremendous job today, still looked short of peak fitness but handled the track well and outstayed RTR. Great eachway chance. RTR had his optimum conditions today and couldn't get it done. Some long faces afterwards.
 
delsie777 said:
I thought Bellshill did a tremendous job today, still looked short of peak fitness but handled the track well and outstayed RTR. Great eachway chance. RTR had his optimum conditions today and couldn't get it done. Some long faces afterwards.
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He was 2nd by a nose. Ruby was holding on to nothing. And RTR mate noticeable mistakes and still only lost in a photo.
 
Bellshill looked the stronger stayer to me, and road to respect would have better chance jumping at pace in the ryanair.
I suspect neither will win GC anyway.
 
quevega said:
Bellshill looked the stronger stayer to me, and road to respect would have better chance jumping at pace in the ryanair.
I suspect neither will win GC anyway.
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RTR will be going gold cup with a rock solid ew chance imo.
 
Yesterday's race was run in a marginally slower time and on quicker ground than the 'slow' Savills with both the principals having a hard race. I wouldn't really fancy either for the big one now.
 
archie said:
Yesterday's race was run in a marginally slower time and on quicker ground than the 'slow' Savills with both the principals having a hard race. I wouldn't really fancy either for the big one now.
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Archie have you sectionals to go with that? Just intrigued as a 4 runner race would tend to be slowly run throughout as well.
 
Can’t see either horse in winners enclosure personally, ew claims
 
archie said:
Yesterday's race was run in a marginally slower time and on quicker ground than the 'slow' Savills with both the principals having a hard race. I wouldn't really fancy either for the big one now.
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Boom.
Mic dropped....
 
jack1092 said:
Archie have you sectionals to go with that? Just intrigued as a 4 runner race would tend to be slowly run throughout as well.
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Of course, times are notoriously unreliable on different days especially in Ireland where the race distance is given as the same but hasn't been measured to the yard. Just measuring from the replays very roughly the Savills time was 6m 6.5s and the final circuit took 3m 34s. The IGC time was 6m 6.7s and the final circuit took 3m 36s. Make of that what you will.

Maybe a better measure is The Storyteller. If you have him running the same in both races you can say that Bellshill and Road To Respect have come on 4 or 5 lengths. That would probably be accounted for by extra fitness for Bellshill and RTR avoiding the slips from the Savills.

Either way, even if he hasn't come on from the Savills, and he is in fine shape at the moment, Kemboy still holds yesterday's duo on the bare form. Cheltenham will be a proper test of jumping and a race to savour even before the Red Mills which should be even more informative than yesterday.
 
Kev loves a stat (:devilish:) so here's one specially for him.

None of the last 12 winners of the Gold Cup had run within 33 days of the big day. The Red Mills Chase is 27 days before the Gold Cup.
 
archie said:
Kev loves a stat (:devilish:) so here's one specially for him.

None of the last 12 winners of the Gold Cup had run within 33 days of the big day. The Red Mills Chase is 27 days before the Gold Cup.
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The impact them 6 days have can not be overstated enough :highly_amused:
 
archie said:
Kev loves a stat (:devilish:) so here's one specially for him.

None of the last 12 winners of the Gold Cup had run within 33 days of the big day. The Red Mills Chase is 27 days before the Gold Cup.
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:highly_amused: 4 weeks to 5 weeks? I can see SOME logic in a Gold Cup (but I'd want to know who tried and over what trips etc)....


I have another stat though.

Presenting Certainty has a 100% record at Cheltenham from a 24/25 day prep :p
 
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