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Cheltenham Bumper 2019

Bugger. Lost a good few points there. Hopefully he says it's a possibility at some point.
 
jono said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“He’ll probably have one more run in a bumper and he won’t be going to Cheltenham," <a href="https://twitter.com/gelliott_racing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gelliott_racing</a> after completing <a href="https://twitter.com/Fairyhouse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fairyhouse</a> 4-timer with Envoi Allen in the bumper</p>— Irishracing.com Live (@IrishRacing365) <a href="https://twitter.com/IrishRacing365/status/1069264170934255616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Not really a shock to be honest. Just hope most of you have been able to get out (cash out) where you can. Ballymore next season ;)
 
I only had Envoi Allen in some multiples but I have no cash out option on any bet he’s included in! Strange as I was able to cash out my multiples with Draconien in.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I only had Envoi Allen in some multiples but I have no cash out option on any bet he’s included in! Strange as I was able to cash out my multiples with Draconien in.
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Draconien news was and still is yet to have been officially said by connections (as far as I'm aware), all bar a small bit in the RP where Mullins was quoted.

Unfortunately Envoi Allen was very public and thus 365 taking swift action on that one.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Draconien news was and still is yet to have been officially said by connections (as far as I'm aware), all bar a small bit in the RP where Mullins was quoted.

Unfortunately Envoi Allen was very public and thus 365 taking swift action on that one.
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Yeah unfortunately that seems to be the case. No big loss but they were nice multiples if he was a live player.
 
To be fair, well done to those who we're of the opinion he would miss the festival this year .... I thought they'd probably throw both darts.

I do take it as a major positive for Malone Road too, so also well done to those on at big prices. Gordon wouldn't be leaving his best chances of a winner at home so MR must be 'the one' for him at this stage.
 
There’s some murmurs on Twitter about Malone Road being injured, no idea what to make of them
 
Kevloaf said:
To be fair, well done to those who we're of the opinion he would miss the festival this year .... I thought they'd probably throw both darts.

I do take it as a major positive for Malone Road too, so also well done to those on at big prices. Gordon wouldn't be leaving his best chances of a winner at home so MR must be 'the one' for him at this stage.
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One of my earliest posts I said I had a feeling Envoi Allen would be kept away from Cheltenham due to being the classier, longer term horse. I still went ahead and backed him and not Malone Road though! #practicewhatyoupreach
 
JackieMoon33 said:
One of my earliest posts I said I had a feeling Envoi Allen would be kept away from Cheltenham due to being the classier, longer term horse. I still went ahead and backed him and not Malone Road though! #practicewhatyoupreach
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Haha, we live and learn :p

Spot on though, Malone Road looks to be much more forward in his development.

If you had a gun to my head (I'd stamp on your foot and judo-flip you over) but if I had to have a bet on which horse will have a higher OR 'all-time' I'd say Envoi Allen. He just gave that impression today that he'll be better in a couple of years. A bit cliche I'm sure. Maybe others disagree
 
JackieMoon33 said:
He’s my early pick for this but I have conflicting thoughts as to whether he would be aimed at Cheltenham if good enough. On one hand he’s owned by Cheveley Park so they will probably want him to run at the big UK festivals. On the other hand, he looks really talented and Gordon might want to look after him for next season as he could be very special and the Cheltenham bumper is not always the best race for horses that need minding a bit.
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Here it is on page 6 dated 29th October :highly_amused:
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Out of the two expensive purchase for Cheveley Park, Malone Road is the more traditional National Hunt bred and should ideally prefer softer ground. Their other big purchase, Envoi Allen, could be the more classy but winning festival bumpers can sometimes come down to staying power rather than class. I think the Thompsons have two good horses to go to war with and both in the right hands with Gordon Elliott.
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And I said this on 4th November. I’m scratching my head why I went with Envoi Allen over Malone Road:confused:
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Here it is on page 6 dated 29th October :highly_amused:
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JackieMoon33 said:
And I said this on 4th November. I’m scratching my head why I went with Envoi Allen over Malone Road:confused:
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A fool and his money are soon parted... you don't take a scatter gun approach, so wouldn't be too harsh on yourself despite nailing it haha:highly_amused:

Of all the 'non-handicap' races at the festival, the bumper has to be the one right at the bottom of the ante-post "must-bet" list...


I have a stat that may make you feel better.... I cashed out Envoi Allen for profit today, which is my FIRST EVER RETURNS from the Cheltenham bumper. A record streching back to 2011 :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
A fool and his money are soon parted... you don't take a scatter gun approach, so wouldn't be too harsh on yourself despite nailing it haha:highly_amused:

Of all the 'non-handicap' races at the festival, the bumper has to be the one right at the bottom of the ante-post "must-bet" list...


I have a stat that may make you feel better.... I cashed out Envoi Allen for profit today, which is my FIRST EVER RETURNS from the Cheltenham bumper. A record streching back to 2011 :highly_amused:
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Life goal achieved :highly_amused:
 
As I finish this last bit of rum.... I'll take you through my Bumper History :very_drunk: ... it is not as bad as it sounds (despite no returns)!

2011 - Divine Rhapsody - Had won the Goffs Landrover bumper the year before, this was his 1st run of the season and I imagine I backed it as a tip I'd read as I definitely wasn't watching bumper races that season.
2012 - I backed The New One (6th) and Sir Johnson(11th)! Some lovely horses in that race, Many Clouds 9th, Jezki 8th, Village Vic (13th) and Champagne Fever(1st).
2013 - I went wild and had 4 darts... all win only, Regal Encore (2nd) Golantilla (3rd), The Liquidator (4th) - Wounded
2014 - Had the 5th and 6th with Killultag Vic and Vigil
2015 - Wait For Me (3rd) and Bellshill (10th) - Moon Racer's win. Ridiculous!
2016 - The worst of the lot! Battleford (2nd) at 25/1 win only. Lost by a nose in a photo. (Also on High Bridge)
2017 - Had an almighty each way on Western Ryder (Thanks Ista :p) who came 5th. Also Quick Grabim who was 17th (apt as he's won a G1 today!) and Getabird Non runner
2018 - Hollowgraphic Non runner - Blackbow 5th and Rhinestone 10th.


2019 - Envoi Allen gooonyaaboyayaaa :highly_amused:
 
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