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Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

Not got a Hills account so popped into the local shop to back DDS for the Arkle.Took 5/1 as best price outbthere but the lad behind the counter had to phone though to check NRNB.Got DDS in a multi so just wanted to cover him if he came to the Arkle.
 
somer1 said:
Not got a Hills account so popped into the local shop to back DDS for the Arkle.Took 5/1 as best price outbthere but the lad behind the counter had to phone though to check NRNB.Got DDS in a multi so just wanted to cover him if he came to the Arkle.
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WH are not nrnb are they?
 
He phoned and asked if non runner money back and said to me they were.Could be fun at a later date!!!
 
I'd go back now to check. They're not nrnb in shops or online.
 
This is interesting

https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-leading-trainer.html

if you click on a trainers name and the Festival tab you get a record of last 3 years

Gordon https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Gordon-Elliott&prt=7657

Willie https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=W-P-Mullins&prt=243

Joseph https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Joseph-Patrick-O-Brien&prt=21407

Hendo https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Nicky-Henderson&prt=762

Nicholls https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Paul-Nicholls&prt=3646

Tom George https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Tom-George&prt=2496

Tizzard https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=C-L-Tizzard&prt=5857

HDB https://www.irishracing.com/cheltenham-trainer?name=Henry-De-Bromhead&prt=4686
 
Mullins had 10 fallers last year

That’s incredible
 
Hurricane fly said:
Mullins had 10 fallers last year

That’s incredible
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Tony Keenan all over that stat

Mullins and Fallers
The jumping of the Mullins horses attracted plenty of comment last year with ten of his runners falling across all races; when looking at the last three Festivals, his total number of fallers at the meeting is 14 with Gordon Elliott a distant second on five, Colin Tizzard, Venetia Williams, Jonjo O’Neill and Paul Nicholls with four each.

Those numbers are raw and from a small sample size but there are all sorts of layers to this. Unseats, say, are not included and are mainly caused by jumping errors nor are pulled up efforts that may have been brought about by mistakes. Some trainers may have more runners over fences than hurdles which would produce more fallers and so on.

Yet faller rate is something the BHA seem to place plenty of stock in as their report on the 2018 Cheltenham Festival included the following recommendation:

individual trainers…who have an incidence of fallers significantly higher than the historical average will be required to engage constructively with the BHA to consider the drivers of, and actions to improve, high incidence rates.

Perhaps it’s just me but that does sound like the authority is telling trainers how to train their horses which is a particularly grey area but they are the regulator after all: their racing, their rules. One wonders if Willie Mullins has been ‘engaged with’ on this and what that ‘engagement’ would be.

It is easy to question what right have the BHA to tell the all-time leading trainer at the Festival how his horses need to jump but there are two other factors here. First, Mullins has said that neither Douvan nor Rathvinden had schooled much ahead of last year’s meeting while comments from some associated with the yard suggest nothing has changed this term; owner Colm O’Connell saying after Bachasson’s New Year’s Eve win that ‘he hadn’t seen a hurdle or fence since [he fell in] the Gold Cup.’

And second, Mullins does have the highest fall rate when compared to similar trainers. Looking at those trainers who had the most runners in all UK and Irish jumps races between the 2015/16 and 2017/18 seasons, Mullins comes out worst with a fall rate of 4.7%. Colin Tizzard is next with 4.1% followed by Evan Williams on 3.9% and Henry De Bromhead on 3.6%. The average for that entire group which takes in a sample of 31,917 runners is 3.1%.

I suspect that the jumping of his horses will be under close scrutiny in a fortnight’s time and this might be one of the most interesting aspects of the meeting especially given quite a few of his horses won’t have had the racecourse practice they might have had in a previous season with the weather as it is.

https://www.geegeez.co.uk/tony-keenan-cheltenham-festival-reprise-2018-take-two/
 
Are weights announced today or tomorrow folks?
 
bobbyvalentino said:
What weight would you be happy for Moon over Germany?
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I'm hoping for a rating of 138 or 139. They could easily leave him on 134 though and that will scupper his chance of getting in the close brothers.
 
My current singles for the festival.

Day 1

Supreme:

Angels Breath 10/1 NRNB
Klassical Dream 8/1 NRNB
Commander Of Fleet 40/1 NRNB :highly_amused:
Felix Desjy 20/1 (free bet)
Vision D'Honneur 14/1 (free bet)

Arkle:

Duc Des Genievres 20/1 NRNB

Ultima

Coo Star Sivola 33/1
Mister Whitaker 16/1 NRNB
Black Corton 14/1 (free bet) NRNB
Barney Dwan 25/1 NRNB
Talkischeap 14/1 NRNB
Minella Rocco 22/1 NRNB
Jerrysback 28/1 NRNB

Champion Hurdle:

Melon 16/1 NRNB

Mares:

Stormy Ireland 8/1 NRNB
Limini 7/1 NRNB

NH Chase:

OK Corral 33/1
Ballyward 25/1
Discorama 14/1 NRNB

Close Bros:

Lough Derg Spirit 20/1 NRNB
Campeador 16/1 NRNB

Day 2

Ballymore:

Battleoverdoyen 16/1
Jarvey's Plate 25/1 NRNB
Birchdale 16/1 NRNB
Angel's Breath 8/1 NRNB
Allaho 16/1 NRNB & 40/1 (not NRNB :()
Klassical Dream 10/1 NRNB
Champagne Platinum 22/1

RSA:

Topofthegame 25/1
Delta Work 6.46/1

Coral Cup:

The Storyteller 22/1
Tin Soldier 40/1 NRNB

Fred Winter:

Surin 14/1 NRNB
Lethal Steps 16/1 NRNB
Dogon 40/1 NRNB

Bumper:

Eden Du Houx 25/1
Santa Rossa 25/1
Meticulous 16/1
Abacadabras 25/1

Day 3

JLT:

Voix Du Reve 45/1, 33/1, 25/1
Champagne Classic 14/1 NRNB
Defi Du Seuil 13.24/1

Pertemps:

Dawn Raider 20/1 NRNB
Tin Soldier 15/1 NRNB
Thomas Campbell 20/1 NRNB
Culture De Sivola 25/1 NRNB
First Assignment 12/1 NRNB

Ryanair:

Min 8.6/1
Monalee 15.5/1

Stayers:

Faugheen 9.4/1
Penhill 7.6/1

Brown Advisory Plate:

Belami Des Pictons 20/1 NRNB

Mares Novice:

Salsaretta 36.25/1
Allez Dance 20/1 NRNB

Day 4

Triumph:

Adjali 26/1
Pic D'Orhy 22/1, 16/1 NRNB & 12/1 NRNB

County:

Ivanovich Gorbatov 25/1 & 16/1 NRNB
Malaya 25/1 NRNB

Albert Bartlett:

Rockpoint 80/1
Samarquand 56.25/1 :very_drunk:
Easy Game 20/1 NRNB
Commander Of Fleet 9/1 NRNB

Gold Cup:

Bellshill 28/1, 24/1
Presenting Percy 5/1 & 4/1
Might Bite 7/1 :very_drunk:

Foxhunters Chase:

Gilgamboa 14/1
Caid Du Berlais 20/1 NRNB

Grand Annual:

Eamon An Cnoic 14/1 NRNB
Magic Saint 13/1

Martin Pipe:

No singles yet.

Any Race:

Vision Des Flos 22/1
Commander Of Fleet 14.08/1
Cracking Smart 16/1
Champagne Classic 20/1
Samcro 5/2 :very_drunk::highly_amused:
Blow By Blow 16/1
Pym 20/1
Kilbricken Storm 12/1
Delta Work 17.54/1
Elwood 27.25/1
Lostintranslation 22/1
Adjali 22/1
Didtheyleaveuoutto 22/1
Farid 33/1
Dento Des Obeaux 27.54/1
Arctic Fire 36.25/1
Mortal 15.4/1
Gun Digger 22/1
Hardline 15.4/1

And that's my lot in way of singles.

Bit hit and miss, plenty of non-runners in there also and some haven't qualified for the handicaps. Happy enough though, and have plenty of multiples with others not included in here, like Santini, BDD etc...

Have taken a fair hit pre festival, think some -130pts already, this is bound to happen backing ante post, injuries or worse, change of plans etc... But we carry on, and it is certainly not the worst start to a festival I have had!
 
ComplyOrDie said:
My current singles for the festival.

Day 1

Supreme:

Angels Breath 10/1 NRNB
Klassical Dream 8/1 NRNB
Commander Of Fleet 40/1 NRNB :highly_amused:
Felix Desjy 20/1 (free bet)
Vision D'Honneur 14/1 (free bet)

Arkle:

Duc Des Genievres 20/1 NRNB

Ultima

Coo Star Sivola 33/1
Mister Whitaker 16/1 NRNB
Black Corton 14/1 (free bet) NRNB
Barney Dwan 25/1 NRNB
Talkischeap 14/1 NRNB
Minella Rocco 22/1 NRNB
Jerrysback 28/1 NRNB

Champion Hurdle:

Melon 16/1 NRNB

Mares:

Stormy Ireland 8/1 NRNB
Limini 7/1 NRNB

NH Chase:

OK Corral 33/1
Ballyward 25/1
Discorama 14/1 NRNB

Close Bros:

Lough Derg Spirit 20/1 NRNB
Campeador 16/1 NRNB

Day 2

Ballymore:

Battleoverdoyen 16/1
Jarvey's Plate 25/1 NRNB
Birchdale 16/1 NRNB
Angel's Breath 8/1 NRNB
Allaho 16/1 NRNB & 40/1 (not NRNB :()
Klassical Dream 10/1 NRNB
Champagne Platinum 22/1

RSA:

Topofthegame 25/1
Delta Work 6.46/1

Coral Cup:

The Storyteller 22/1
Tin Soldier 40/1 NRNB

Fred Winter:

Surin 14/1 NRNB
Lethal Steps 16/1 NRNB
Dogon 40/1 NRNB

Bumper:

Eden Du Houx 25/1
Santa Rossa 25/1
Meticulous 16/1
Abacadabras 25/1

Day 3

JLT:

Voix Du Reve 45/1, 33/1, 25/1
Champagne Classic 14/1 NRNB
Defi Du Seuil 13.24/1

Pertemps:

Dawn Raider 20/1 NRNB
Tin Soldier 15/1 NRNB
Thomas Campbell 20/1 NRNB
Culture De Sivola 25/1 NRNB
First Assignment 12/1 NRNB

Ryanair:

Min 8.6/1
Monalee 15.5/1

Stayers:

Faugheen 9.4/1
Penhill 7.6/1

Brown Advisory Plate:

Belami Des Pictons 20/1 NRNB

Mares Novice:

Salsaretta 36.25/1
Allez Dance 20/1 NRNB

Day 4

Triumph:

Adjali 26/1
Pic D'Orhy 22/1, 16/1 NRNB & 12/1 NRNB

County:

Ivanovich Gorbatov 25/1 & 16/1 NRNB
Malaya 25/1 NRNB

Albert Bartlett:

Rockpoint 80/1
Samarquand 56.25/1 :very_drunk:
Easy Game 20/1 NRNB
Commander Of Fleet 9/1 NRNB

Gold Cup:

Bellshill 28/1, 24/1
Presenting Percy 5/1 & 4/1
Might Bite 7/1 :very_drunk:

Foxhunters Chase:

Gilgamboa 14/1
Caid Du Berlais 20/1 NRNB

Grand Annual:

Eamon An Cnoic 14/1 NRNB
Magic Saint 13/1

Martin Pipe:

No singles yet.

Any Race:

Vision Des Flos 22/1
Commander Of Fleet 14.08/1
Cracking Smart 16/1
Champagne Classic 20/1
Samcro 5/2 :very_drunk::highly_amused:
Blow By Blow 16/1
Pym 20/1
Kilbricken Storm 12/1
Delta Work 17.54/1
Elwood 27.25/1
Lostintranslation 22/1
Adjali 22/1
Didtheyleaveuoutto 22/1
Farid 33/1
Dento Des Obeaux 27.54/1
Arctic Fire 36.25/1
Mortal 15.4/1
Gun Digger 22/1
Hardline 15.4/1

And that's my lot in way of singles.

Bit hit and miss, plenty of non-runners in there also and some haven't qualified for the handicaps. Happy enough though, and have plenty of multiples with others not included in here, like Santini, BDD etc...

Have taken a fair hit pre festival, think some -130pts already, this is bound to happen backing ante post, injuries or worse, change of plans etc... But we carry on, and it is certainly not the worst start to a festival I have had!
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Got the NH chase by the balls!
 
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