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Champion Hurdle 2020

Are you claiming this is a conspiracy theory and that massive splinter of wood was photo shopped?? It looked genuine and nasty injury, I don’t think there is anything fishy, he’s injured and so it’s a waiting game

All I would say is ......... it’s happened before with the same connections with Binocular. Time will tell but I would hazard a guess that he will be there come Cheltenham. Binocular was ruled out and made a miraculous recovery to not only get to the race but win it with eaz. If you can explain that result then I’d be all innocent in thinking the same as you. I have a very long memory.
 
If you've backed buveur dair, you forget about him, mark it down as a loss and move on. Dont expect him to come back. Dont chase the big prices on the exchange. Or chase your losses. Take it on the chin.

If he lines up in the CH. Its an almighty bonus for your bets.

Speculation will get us nowhere
 
"He's completely sound but a minor, yet significant, muscle problem has been diagnosed and explains our concerns," Henderson said. "We feel we don't have sufficient time to treat this in order for him to do himself justice in the Champion Hurdle.

"We have unfortunately decided to put him away for the season to ensure he can begin next term as normal and 100 per cent for a full campaign, which we obviously hope will lead us back to the Champion Hurdle."

Henderson on Binocular back in February 2010...... remember what happened a month later ?
 
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All I would say is ......... it’s happened before with the same connections with Binocular. Time will tell but I would hazard a guess that he will be there come Cheltenham. Binocular was ruled out and made a miraculous recovery to not only get to the race but win it with eaz. If you can explain that result then I’d be all innocent in thinking the same as you. I have a very long memory.

went to JP's home in Ireland for some magic grass too.

Don't know what all the fuss is about anyway.
My big toenail comes off all the time, and I can still run.
Unless Buvuer Dair's like David Haye.
He should be fine in a few weeks.
 
went to JP's home in Ireland for some magic grass too.

Don't know what all the fuss is about anyway.
My big toenail comes off all the time, and I can still run.
Unless Buvuer Dair's like David Haye.
He should be fine in a few weeks.

Brilliant hahaha
 
"He's completely sound but a minor, yet significant, muscle problem has been diagnosed and explains our concerns," Henderson said. "We feel we don't have sufficient time to treat this in order for him to do himself justice in the Champion Hurdle.

"We have unfortunately decided to put him away for the season to ensure he can begin next term as normal and 100 per cent for a full campaign, which we obviously hope will lead us back to the Champion Hurdle."

Henderson on Binocular back in February 2010...... remember what happened a month later ?

After listening to Kevin Blake on the slightly bizarre injury he's had i'd share Scooby's view.

Blake had a mare with a similar injury and he said it took forever to recover from.
 
After listening to Kevin Blake on the slightly bizarre injury he's had i'd share Scooby's view.

Blake had a mare with a similar injury and he said it took forever to recover from.

I listened to the same thing which is why I’m saying it’s very fishy. Why is he not ruled out Cheltenham yet ?
I’m sure the vet would no that the surgery Buveur D’airs had is going to take way longer than a few months to heal.
Just something to think about when having an ante post bet in the champion hurdle ...... be very wary of who will be there and who won’t.
 
I listened to the same thing which is why I’m saying it’s very fishy. Why is he not ruled out Cheltenham yet ?
I’m sure the vet would no that the surgery Buveur D’airs had is going to take way longer than a few months to heal.
Just something to think about when having an ante post bet in the champion hurdle ...... be very wary of who will be there and who won’t.


Giving him every chance? Nothing fishy about it at this stage. Hendo did say they weren't sure when/if he'd run again.
 
Giving him every chance? Nothing fishy about it at this stage. Hendo did say they weren't sure when/if he'd run again.

I’m sure you can understand my hesitation based on the Binocular situation all those years ago
 
A cynic is a person who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing :highly_amused:
 
went to JP's home in Ireland for some magic grass too.

Don't know what all the fuss is about anyway.
My big toenail comes off all the time, and I can still run.
Unless Buvuer Dair's like David Haye.
He should be fine in a few weeks.

That made me chuckle, I remember David Haye standing on a table to show off his bruised toe to justify not attempting to throw any punches against Klitscho :highly_amused:
 
went to JP's home in Ireland for some magic grass too.

Don't know what all the fuss is about anyway.
My big toenail comes off all the time, and I can still run.
Unless Buvuer Dair's like David Haye.
He should be fine in a few weeks.

Hahahahaha, post of the day on here.
 
Surprised anyone thinks there is anything fishy going on with BD tbh.

Think connections have been perfectly up front and honest about it.

I never bought into the Binocular conspiracy theories either though. Horses aren't robots after all. I don't think JP and NJH sat down and hatched a plot to land a betting coup in the Champion Hurdle.
 
Surprised anyone thinks there is anything fishy going on with BD tbh.

Think connections have been perfectly up front and honest about it.

I never bought into the Binocular conspiracy theories either though. Horses aren't robots after all. I don't think JP and NJH sat down and hatched a plot to land a betting coup in the Champion Hurdle.

Fishy may be a poor choice of words but do I think it’s as bad as described ??? Absolutely not.
 
Fishy may be a poor choice of words but do I think it’s as bad as described ??? Absolutely not.

They never said he was out for the season, and the recovery time of an off-fore hoof varies dramatically. IMO it was right to paint a picture that leant more towards the worse case scenario. Had they underplayed it and he took a load of money and then was declared out for the season they would be vilified. Either way BVD wouldn’t be on my mind for this atm
 
They never said he was out for the season, and the recovery time of an off-fore hoof varies dramatically. IMO it was right to paint a picture that leant more towards the worse case scenario. Had they underplayed it and he took a load of money and then was declared out for the season they would be vilified. Either way BVD wouldn’t be on my mind for this atm

Agree with this but hoping the talk of returning will get sufficiently optimistic that I can cash out :heart-borken:
 
See Call Me Lord has been declared for the International tomorrow, so Hendo is prepared to try him left handed. Been a big fan of this horse for some time and in hindsight think a strongly run 2 miles is the trip for him. In anticipation of the declaration I asked 365 to price up the CHurdle earlier in the week but they quoted a paltry 16/1. Billy’s have him at 40s which I think could be huge if he can prove his effectiveness left handed and over the course. Taken a chance with the boosted 40s for this and backed at 5s e/w tomorrow.
 
Can't make my mind up re the Intl tomorrow. My head says I should be backing Pentland for the Churdle but somethings stopping me. The one I like is Elixr and he's a huge price for March but I doubt he'll be classy enough. They are the only two I can take out of the race before it's ran with the Churdle in mind if that makes sense. Not going to do them both so will probably plump for Tizzards boy