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Champion Bumper ‘25

Could be a decent bumper if Elliott sends one of his decent looking ones. Ma Jacks Hill obviously beaten already but may be better than he showed. Kovanis won his PTP well in the Autumn. Don't know much about Mister Box but he's got a nice pedigree. The Bective filly is a half to The Yellow Clay. Walks In June I don't expect to go but will be interesting over obstacles.
 
DenmanSacre said:
Could be a decent bumper if Elliott sends one of his decent looking ones. Ma Jacks Hill obviously beaten already but may be better than he showed. Kovanis won his PTP well in the Autumn. Don't know much about Mister Box but he's got a nice pedigree. The Bective filly is a half to The Yellow Clay. Walks In June I don't expect to go but will be interesting over obstacles.
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Kovanis was ultra impressive, albeit early in the season when not every handler was ready and firing. I’d expected him to be held back and given a late season bumper, so it’s interesting Gordon is getting him out quickly.
 
Yosser said:
Leaky Cauldron is 'the one' i hope :biggrin-new: My mate was telling me Blue Velvet is highly regarded and has backed her at 50s but i have no idea where he got that from. I haven't heard of her


Just had a look JackieMoon33 don't know if you have already found out but Leaky Cauldron has been registered and is owned by Miss M A Masterson who owns Appreciate It
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Yes mate. Clocked the entries earlier. He was one from the list that I thought would be up to a bumper so we’ll see if he takes his chance or not.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
Yes mate. Clocked the entries earlier. He was one from the list that I thought would be up to a bumper so we’ll see if he takes his chance or not.
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Willie and Mastersons have won that 2m4f bumper at leopardstown twice with Appreciate it and Carefully Selected. Both horses then finished 2nd at cheltenham.
 
OffTheBridle said:
Willie and Mastersons have won that 2m4f bumper at leopardstown twice with Appreciate it and Carefully Selected. Both horses then finished 2nd at cheltenham.
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It’s a race Willie has a good record in (better than the 2m race on 26th) and three of his winners have run second at the festival.
 
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No idea what to make of that. Form line through Jerry From Kerry who got put away by Kalypso'chance.

Likely one that looks too good to be true.
 
HoldenTheReins said:
No idea what to make of that. Form line through Jerry From Kerry who got put away by Kalypso'chance.

Likely one that looks too good to be true.
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If you take the Limerick run it beat Heads Up over 10 lengths - who then was beat 4 lengths by Kalypso. Appreciate that’s a literal take, but enough to believe there’s some substance & maybe not just a freak result
 
Cashew King said:
Yeah - form ties in with Kalypsochance through Heads Up - maybe the next Moon Racer year

Smashed into 8s now!
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2020 the last time Pipe had a runner in the Champion Bumper, running two in Israel Champ and Panic Attack finishing 17th and 18th respective...
 
HoldenTheReins said:
No idea what to make of that. Form line through Jerry From Kerry who got put away by Kalypso'chance.

Likely one that looks too good to be true.
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Yep I’d be more inclined to read into that then the heads up form line from his racecourse debut when he clearly didn’t run to expectation. I think he’s beaten a load of trees there. That price for the bumper is criminal. Commentator got very excited, must have near wet himself. That’s probably impacted the price too
 
Interesting breeding, his Dam's Sire is Barathea,
Luca Cumani trained colt beaten by Zafonic in the
'93 2000 Guineas
 
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He doesn't even qualify for the bumper does he? That was his 4th bumper run. Only allowed 3 before the Cheltenham bumper.
 
Studfarm254 said:
Yep I’d be more inclined to read into that then the heads up form line from his racecourse debut when he clearly didn’t run to expectation. I think he’s beaten a load of trees there. That price for the bumper is criminal. Commentator got very excited, must have near wet himself. That’s probably impacted the price too
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It was a listed race with 9 of the opposition also having won a bumper race! He has destroyed them by 14 lengths with the fav in 2nd suggesting form is reliable. That is by far the best form we have seen. However, will he go to Cheltenham? Will they even stick with bumpers? It was the horses 4th start on the flat and though it is late, they could give him a spin over hurdles. There is a good chance that with three months to go then something will improve past him anyway, let alone the fact the race normally is a big field mess. Down the 6s and 7s now, assuming he doesn't run again he would be that price on the day.
 
DenmanSacre said:
He doesn't even qualify for the bumper does he? That was his 4th bumper run. Only allowed 3 before the Cheltenham bumper.
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The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:

1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.

The only exceptions will be where:
  • the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
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Doesn't look like it unless it's changed again this season?
 
Runragged said:
The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:

1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.

The only exceptions will be where:
  • the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
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Doesn't look like it unless it's changed again this season?
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I can't remember seeing a change but maybe someone else knows. If he isn't qualified, all bets should be refunded. Was anything said after the race by the trainer?
 
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