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Champion Bumper ‘25

…..Kovanis into a best 25-1 CB after that win.
 
Lost in all the excitement from the other races, carrigmoornaspruce won the bumper and gave a nice form boost to amen kate, who beat her 7 lengths on both of their debuts.
 
Anything is possible in this years bumper. I would usually say 'no' to a mare but it looks very weak. I will have a play on Soldier In Milan if he comes out in the next few weeks but it's a race i will definitely be waiting for on the day this year. It has all the makings of a Briar Hill type renewal. Bill Joyce was hammered in the market on the day last year but i think he got injured in the race. I was on Jasmin thanks to the forum but this year is an open book.
 
There’s a few recent PTP purchases I’m hoping to see soon. Probably late January which means it’d be one run and on to the festival.

The geldings DRF bumper is looking very very weak this year. Unless the horse has been out yet, it’s probably too late for the DRF.

The only one with a good reputation is Kalypsochance. Everyone else’s bubble seems to have been burst or doesn’t look good enough to worry the scorers.

I actually think the two who pulled well clear at Down Royal on Boxing Day were very good. Kilwaughter and Theflyingking. The latter will take in another maiden though I presume. The former is on my radar as one who might be sold and moved to a bigger yard.
 
Future Prospect is one i will monitor for another entry. By Order Of St. George so has that flat pedigree that A Dream To Share had. If he rocks up in one of the DRF bumpers (which i assume he will) then i will be watching the betting in that market and might have an AP poke for the Champion Bumper if strong.
 
Yosser said:
Future Prospect is one i will monitor for another entry. By Order Of St. George so has that flat pedigree that A Dream To Share had. If he rocks up in one of the DRF bumpers (which i assume he will) then i will be watching the betting in that market and might have an AP poke for the Champion Bumper if strong.
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A mare so will all but certainly end up in that race at the DRF. The mares race could be very good. Future Prospect, Amen Kate, Blue Velvet, Carrigmornaspruce.
 
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Exar Essay said:
A mare so will all but certainly end up in that race at the DRF. The mares race could be very good. Future Prospect, Amen Kate, Blue Velvet, Carrigmornaspruce.
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Another mare. Blimey, they are out in force this year. I will probably leave that alone now too :emmersed: had no idea
 
Yosser said:
Future Prospect is one i will monitor for another entry. By Order Of St. George so has that flat pedigree that A Dream To Share had. If he rocks up in one of the DRF bumpers (which i assume he will) then i will be watching the betting in that market and might have an AP poke for the Champion Bumper if strong.
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Order Of St George is a NH sire. Future Prospect has a proper jumps pedigree so completely different type to A Dream To Share.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
Order Of St George is a NH sire. Future Prospect has a proper jumps pedigree so completely different type to A Dream To Share.
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He identifies as a NH sire but so far has sired nothing of note over obstacles. He will never make a jumps sire no matter how hard they try. I know nothing of the broodmare though and haven't looked it up so she could be a good one but as of now, for me, Order Of St George is a flat horse by Galileo masquerading as a NH sire.
 
Yosser said:
He identifies as a NH sire but so far has sired nothing of note over obstacles. He will never make a jumps sire no matter how hard they try. I know nothing of the broodmare though and haven't looked it up so she could be a good one but as of now, for me, Order Of St George is a flat horse by Galileo masquerading as a NH sire.
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I think you'll be surprised by Order of St George. The PTP trainers seem to like his progeny. His oldest crop are the 4yos so no wonder he hasn't yet had a really good one. They'll likely be slower maturing horses than the French types winning big races at 3/4.
 
Yosser said:
He identifies as a NH sire but so far has sired nothing of note over obstacles. He will never make a jumps sire no matter how hard they try. I know nothing of the broodmare though and haven't looked it up so she could be a good one but as of now, for me, Order Of St George is a flat horse by Galileo masquerading as a NH sire.
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He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.
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Yep, far too soon to say,
Masar another one, won the 2018 Derby so his prodigy are only just starting to be seen, will be 3/4 years before we'll truly know....
 
Whilst we’re on the subject, Obey The Order is firmly on my radar, potentially even as a late flyer for the bumper. Apparently he is now with Willie.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.
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90% of this forum summed up in one quote. :highly_amused: (I changed it from 99%) :rolleyes:
 
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Can you see AK going to the bumper riccirich
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No idea, haven't seen any comments from the trainer about it, unless someone else has. Same trainer/owner combo ran d art d art in the bumper a couple seasons back though so they aren't against bringing one over for it anyway.
 
Any chance the Brighterdaysahead/Might Potter etc half brother comes here? Entered at Naas on Sunday but only a 4yo.
 
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I said I thought he’d go for the valuable sales bumper that he qualifies for, rather than Chelts.
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Yeah. He’s already entered for that. Not sure if entries are automatic though?
 
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