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Champion Bumper 2020

Quevega said:
Appreciate It looks a good thing to me.
Looks miles clear of the Irish and they look miles clear of the UK lot.
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The Irish horses might prove to be better - but on what basis are you claiming they’re better at the minute?

The UK lot are generally the Irish lot, but got bought by the UK lot and trained over here - they were largely running in the same Irish ptp’s as those your classing as the Irish lot until last April/May - so on what basis are the ones who weren’t bought by Irish trainers worse?
 
Cashew King said:
The Irish horses might prove to be better - but on what basis are you claiming they’re better at the minute?

The UK lot are generally the Irish lot, but got bought by the UK lot and trained over here - they were largely running in the same Irish ptp’s as those your classing as the Irish lot until last April/May - so on what basis are the ones who weren’t bought by Irish trainers worse?
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Irish are better full stop.
Half as many runners
Twice as many winners
Over the whole meeting
Profit to stake is miles better
 
Scooby91 said:
Deffinately. And not even then. Imo you'd be bit of a nutter to back the fav at current prices.

Easy to forget envoi allen was appreciate its price yet drifted out to 6/1 on the day.

Nearly all horses are now shorter than they will be on the day.

Apart from the handicaps.
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6/1 on the day? Envoi? Really? I don’t remember that at all.
 
Most horses are definitely shorter though.
 
Quevega said:
Irish are better full stop.
Half as many runners
Twice as many winners
Over the whole meeting
Profit to stake is miles better
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But my question is what shows the current crop of Irish bumper horses are better than the UK lot?

Surely no one knows that yet - I don’t know any form lines that prove it one way or the other?

You might be right - but we won’t know until March but you state it as if it’s fact. I think the Irish horses have pretty much been disappointing- how many on here have backed Ferny Hollow, Power or Pause etc - they haven’t come up to the hype - so maybe Appreciate It is the best of a poor bunch?
 
Appreciate it has won the best bumper this season
The Cheltenham bumper will be easier than the one he won in Dublin IMO
Ferry hollow and power of pause were fancy types that gave not yet proven it on the track.
Me thinking it’s a good thing is a fact.
Wether it’s a good thing is yet to be seen
 
Middle_Of_March said:
6/1 on the day? Envoi? Really? I don’t remember that at all.
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He was around 9/4 this time last year. But there was also the chat he wouldnt go.

And He was deffinately 6/1 at a point during the day, I didn't back him myself but my mrs had him in a lucky bet I can see at 6/1. Placed on the day.
 
Punchestown rescheduled for Tuesday
 
Muswell said:
Punchestown rescheduled for Tuesday
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Easier to do in Ireland as they only race over jumps once or twice Monday to Friday, so no worries with jockeys riding at other meetings. No chance in Britain with daily racing.
 
Scooby91 said:
He was around 9/4 this time last year. But there was also the chat he wouldnt go.

And He was deffinately 6/1 at a point during the day, I didn't back him myself but my mrs had him in a lucky bet I can see at 6/1. Placed on the day.
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Blimey that’s incredible

I was on blue sari but I’d have had a saver at that price for sure!
 
I had a decent hit at 100/30 and that was about as big as I remember seeing.
6/1 may have been available on a race special/boost...
 
He was 100% 5/1 in PP shops at 1pm on the Wednesday, I had him in a treble at that price.
 
Opened 9/2 on course

Laughed my cock off all the way to the bank




It will be interesting to see if there is a sea of blue for either Panic Attack or Israel Champ while the other drifts, would suggest an obvious pecking order once they’ve worked together a couple of times
 
The prices thing all rings a bell now.
I was obviously on recovery day and still had face on with Gordon about it all
 
...Skelton confirms Third Time Lucki for this.
 
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