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Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Thought they would be a bit closer in the betting than that. What do you guys think will happen in terms of their respective Festival targets if ND wins (either close or comfortably)?
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Wins in any way Deffinately ballymore.
But I'm also assuming samcro wins
.at 2/1 for the ballymore he needs to win decisively

There's only going to be 6 or 7 runners so shouldn't be a rough race. Both staying on there feet is the main thing.
 
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Agreed, ND wins he goes Ballymore.

Samcro wins comfortably then ND goes AB and Getabird runs in this.
 
No scenario where Samcro switches? I have about 75% of my stake on Samcro any race and 25% Ballymore. Only have ND in a couple of multiples for Ballymore and AB. Annoyed that I haven't had a decent bet on ND any race after his first impressive win, one of the few AP value prices I've missed I think. Very much in the Samcro camp on Sunday. Deliberating over a ND cover bet for Ballymore...not sure what to do. Anyone have any advice let me know :)
 
Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
 
Istabraq said:
Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
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Agreed he's also of concern and not covered...haha!!
 
Istabraq said:
Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
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Not dismissed by any means. Has a live chance and keeps finding for pressure.
 
Tenty said:
Agreed, ND wins he goes Ballymore.

Samcro wins comfortably then ND goes AB and Getabird runs in this.
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Image the scenes if speak easy does them both and pulls clear.
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
No scenario where Samcro switches? I have about 75% of my stake on Samcro any race and 25% Ballymore. Only have ND in a couple of multiples for Ballymore and AB. Annoyed that I haven't had a decent bet on ND any race after his first impressive win, one of the few AP value prices I've missed I think. Very much in the Samcro camp on Sunday. Deliberating over a ND cover bet for Ballymore...not sure what to do. Anyone have any advice let me know :)
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Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
 
Scooby91 said:
Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
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Wouldn’t take that bumper run literally at all. Had to do all the work from the front and turned into a sprint which would not be Samcros cup of tea. I thought that was a very impressive performance considering. All about opinion though..
 
Scooby91 said:
Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
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Like that Scooby, think I will go with the small play in running on ND and roll it over should he win
 
Any chance that Mullins is entering ND up against Samcro because he knows Getabird is the better of his two and it will give him a good guide of his chances to win this race?
 
darlojim said:
Any chance that Mullins is entering ND up against Samcro because he knows Getabird is the better of his two and it will give him a good guide of his chances to win this race?
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If ND isn't beaten far and then a huge market move came for getabird maybe .... but probably better looking at the actual form for each horse rather than guessing what the stable fancy the most. All adds to the fun !
 
Paddy now going 8/11 ND... 11/8 Samcro....
 
Innoko said:
Paddy now going 8/11 ND... 11/8 Samcro....
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Very interesting. If we find out What the reason is and if that price will change. Ie samcro dosent run. Or they have took a view.

It's just as strange that Carter McKay is so short who has no chance against the front 2. maybe trying to avoid the small field ew angle.
 
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I presume there are whispers of either a Samcro setback or change of target
 
Pushed him out further.
4/7 15/8.
People will be all over that unfortunately for them. And pp are not into giving out free money.
 
If only I could do the ND - Carter McKay forecast at current prices. Just hope its a change of plan rather than setback for Samcro.
 
KingSprinterSacre said:
Wasnt aware of that Scooby
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It was at the time when mengli khan ran against stratum . Samcro was the one originally in line to go for that race but had a setback. All elliot said was "a setback" so no idea in particular what it was in detail.
 
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