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Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

Scooby91 said:
The 2 that diddnt run. I think already booked there place in the supreme ballymore respectively.
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Agree about Getabird. Juries out on ND. If ND were mine, I'd fancy my chances of beating CS again more than I would of beating Samcro, even though I wouldn't be scared to take Samcro on.

To my eyes DdC has just promoted himself to third best Novice in the team and surely you'd split up your three best?
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Agree about Getabird. Juries out on ND. If ND were mine, I'd fancy my chances of beating CS again more than I would of beating Samcro, even though I wouldn't be scared to take Samcro on.

To my eyes DdC has just promoted himself to third best Novice in the team and surely you'd split up your three best?
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They're the 3 best.
I'd be assuming Jared sullivan wants one in each. His best chance for me is ddg in the supreme.

I'd be confident ND ballymore more is his right race.
It's kind of a pointless argument as we could both be well wrong. We won't know until the day before.

I want to see ddg supreme though I must admit.

Financially nd bartlett would suit me best.
 
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Scooby91 said:
They're the 3 best.
I'd be assuming Jared sullivan wants one in each. His best chance for me is ddg in the supreme.

I'd be confident ND ballymore more is his right race.
It's kind of a pointless argument as we could both be well wrong. We won't know until the day before.

I want to see ddg supreme though I must admit.
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So you think they would run two of their three best against each other and leave the AB to Carter McKay?
 
Can't Catch Me said:
So you think they would run two of their three best against each other and leave the AB to Carter McKay?
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I think that's there right races for the owners and horses yes. Not necessarily what will l happen as we've seen with bellshill/ shaneshill. Theres a few for the bartlett but Carter McKay. (Not one for me to back) has the most potential over the trip.
 
Scooby91 said:
I think that's there right races for the owners and horses yes. Not necessarily what will l happen as we've seen with bellshill/ shaneshill. Theres a few for the bartlett but Carter McKay. (Not one for me to back) has the most potential over the trip.
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So you think CM would beat ND over 3m at Cheltenham on spring ground?!
 
I think Cracking Smart would be a good bet to out stay Next Destination too, but the logic in putting him in against Cracking Smart having beaten him quite nicely twice makes plenty of appeal.

Samcro, Next Destination, On The Blind Side will be an absolutely magnificent turn up for the race as a 'clash'.

Samcro was a better bumper horse than both though, and has now also got better hurdles form than both. Close as you say it is, it is IMPOSSIBLE to say Next Destination has stronger form than Samcro's win at the weekend?

That is without factoring how visually impressive he was and the fact he put the race to bed so easily. I also think Next Destination wants it a bit softer... but I've said that already.

Carter McKay wins nothing at Cheltenham....
 
Scooby91 said:
Personally yes. I think he wins. I don't think ND is best suited to 3 in the bartlett.
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Fair play. Couldn't agree myself. Don't think CM handled the track at all last year and Id be avoiding him in any race. Just doesn't look up to Festival standard to my eyes.

I think he's probably a soft ground horse as well.
 
Kevloaf said:
I think Cracking Smart would be a good bet to out stay Next Destination too, but the logic in putting him in against Cracking Smart having beaten him quite nicely twice makes plenty of appeal.

Samcro, Next Destination, On The Blind Side will be an absolutely magnificent turn up for the race as a 'clash'.

Samcro was a better bumper horse than both though, and has now also got better hurdles form than both. Close as you say it is, it is IMPOSSIBLE to say Next Destination has stronger form than Samcro's win at the weekend?

That is without factoring how visually impressive he was and the fact he put the race to bed so easily. I also think Next Destination wants it a bit softer... but I've said that already.

Carter McKay wins nothing at Cheltenham....
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I don't think ND form is better but I don't think there's much in it, my complete honest opinion is I think samcro by about 2 lengths. Wouldn't be shocked if nd just won or 1/2L either way I'd be surprised if samcro won by more than 3L
 
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Scooby91 said:
Personally yes. I think he wins. I don't think ND is best suited to 3 in the bartlett.
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No no no.

I misread I thought you said cracking smart.
No I don't think Carter McKay would beat ND.
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Fair play. Couldn't agree myself. Don't think CM handled the track at all last year and Id be avoiding him in any race. Just doesn't look up to Festival standard to my eyes.

I think he's probably a soft ground horse as well.
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I'd agree mainly, I completely misread.

Cracking smart wins the bartlett imo. With or without ND
 
On The Blind Side remains on course to put his unbeaten record on the line in the Ballymore Novices' Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival on March 14.

The Nicky Henderson-trained six-year-old has not been sighted since winning a Grade Two at Sandown in December after he knocked a joint in the run-up to the Challow Hurdle at Newbury.

Henderson said: "He is good. He has got to look out for this Samcro. We thought we were tootling quite nicely towards that race (Ballymore) but we have got a rather big brick wall there in front of us."

The Seven Barrows handler continued: "I was talking to Alan (Spence) in South Africa on Monday and he said they have got to worry about us as well as us worrying about them. On The Blind Side is a good horse, he really is, and he was impressive at Sandown.

"He had sore shins at Cheltenham the time before and he didn't come down the hill. That is why I stuck to two and a half (miles) and didn't get tempted to go to three.

"It looked for all the world that he wants three miles but he had sore shins and didn't want to come down the hill. When he hit the rising ground, he was off and and away. You go downhill on sore shins and it will hurt."
 
Sky's special today is Samcro by 3L or more (NRNB) 2/1 for the Ballymore.... Hurdle wins have been by 15L, 12L and 5.5L (in a grade 1) .... one of the better specials I've seen them have.....

Personally don't like distance bets and wouldn't back it myself having already got a bigger price on him to win the race....

Also glad that OTBS will take him on. Better to see Samcro beat good horses than win none contests.
 
Western ryder is hopingb to get his ballymore aspirations back on track today. However 2 of the horses iv had an eye on for the martin pipe the clock is ticking and Mr one more are in opposition today, the latter finished behind last time but he's crying out for this step up in trip
 
Looking at the exchanges now it seems the decision has been made for Samcro.

Swear he was above evens yesterday, now only 5/6 and hardly any money wanting to lay him further at anywhere near that price.

Can't seem to give Next Destination away for this race either at the moment.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Looking at the exchanges now it seems the decision has been made for Samcro.

Swear he was above evens yesterday, now only 5/6 and hardly any money wanting to lay him further at anywhere near that price.

Can't seem to give Next Destination away for this race either at the moment.
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Gordon Elliott is still favouring the Ballymore Novices' Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival next month for Samcro despite his impressive victory over two miles last Sunday.

The two-mile-five-furlong Ballymore had been viewed as his most likely destination, but he also holds entries in the Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle over three miles as well as the Supreme over two.

He impressed in winning the Deloitte Novice Hurdle at Leopardstown last weekend, extending his unbeaten run under Rules to six in the process, but Elliott is still favouring the Ballymore above his other Festival options.

"He's good. He'll go straight to Cheltenham now anyway," said Elliott. "Everybody probably knows that the Ballymore is where I'd say he's going to go at the moment. We'll let the horse do the talking and Cheltenham is the plan now."

Probably has something to do with it...
 
So as we stand it’s Samcro and OTBS Ballymore and ND going AB?
 
Can help yourself to 18.5 on exchanges for ND now...

And just matched at 42..
 
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