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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

Keep it friendly please.

I don't believe Q intended to offend but it didn't read well.

Let's move on.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Keep it friendly please.

I don't believe Q intended to offend but it didn't read well.

Let's move on.
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Correct.
It was used for emphasis.
And reading was the point, especially your own written words (and what they mean)

Apologies though, to anyone who was physically or mentally disturbed by my written words.

On reflection, It didn't read great - IMO
 
Shishkin not declared for 2M4F Novice at Donny tomorrow, probably waiting for the 2-Miler at Newbury on Wednesday.
 
A potential dark horse among the novice hurdle ranks is the JP McManus-owned Sporting John.
The Irish point-to-point graduate has registered back-to-back wins at Exeter and is set for a step up in class.
"He will either run at Cheltenham on Saturday week or there is a Listed novice hurdle at Exeter a fortnight afterwards. The Cheltenham race is over two-and-a-half and might come too soon," said Hobbs.
"He would have needed his first run at Exeter, as he is quite a gross horse. The handicapper gave him a rating of 146, so he can't run in an ordinary handicap, as he has not had three runs. It would have to be in a class one or two handicap.
"He won a point-to-point before he came to England, so you imagine he would stay. Certainly the way he was won his two races you would think there is no problem going further, but he has won both of his races over two-mile-one, so he is not slow either."
 
Been waiting fo info on Sporting John, id of thought more Supreme but might back any race to remove the headache
 
Cashew King said:
A potential dark horse among the novice hurdle ranks is the JP McManus-owned Sporting John.
The Irish point-to-point graduate has registered back-to-back wins at Exeter and is set for a step up in class.
"He will either run at Cheltenham on Saturday week or there is a Listed novice hurdle at Exeter a fortnight afterwards. The Cheltenham race is over two-and-a-half and might come too soon," said Hobbs.
"He would have needed his first run at Exeter, as he is quite a gross horse. The handicapper gave him a rating of 146, so he can't run in an ordinary handicap, as he has not had three runs. It would have to be in a class one or two handicap.
"He won a point-to-point before he came to England, so you imagine he would stay. Certainly the way he was won his two races you would think there is no problem going further, but he has won both of his races over two-mile-one, so he is not slow either."
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So he's a grade 1, class 2 staying handicap sprinter?
 
For some reason, I am convinced Envoi Allen will be running over two miles (likely Supreme; possibly Champion). With that questionable logic, I think 20/1 Asterian Forlonge represents decent enough value for this.. His winning time (and sectionals) at Naas were excellent and he did it on the bridle. He could run in the Albert Bartlett but he has enough speed for this. Expect him to run in the 2m 6f at the DRF.
 
Bayoffreedom said:
For some reason, I am convinced Envoi Allen will be running over two miles (likely Supreme; possibly Champion). With that questionable logic, I think 20/1 Asterian Forlonge represents decent enough value for this.. His winning time (and sectionals) at Naas were excellent and he did it on the bridle. He could run in the Albert Bartlett but he has enough speed for this. Expect him to run in the 2m 6f at the DRF.
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I’m with you on this- he reminds me so much of Champagne Fever- another Champion Bumper winner who was touted for a Neptune before winning the Supreme of course.

If I owned EA I would take a crack at the Champion Hurdle. I don’t think anything could go with him.

If I’m Michael O’Leary I just go the opposite to EA- i would quite fancy Abracadabras to go close in the Champ Hurdle and wouldn’t it be ironic if he were to win it the season after Samcro tried it. I think Gigg would like to win this race.
 
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Without going over old ground surely the stable money is down at the very least looking at the markets
 
I seen both Vautour and Envoi in the flesh.

Envoi reminds me so much of Vautour.

Envoi for the Ballymore.
 
billymag said:
Without going over old ground surely the stable money is down at the very least looking at the markets
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Exactly. If people want to do the supreme/ballymore debate again then I suggest reading pages 95 to 115, that should satisfy them urges :)
 
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