ComplyOrDie
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Been saying this for quite a while now. I can see 'why' he is short for this race, but as an overall profile (not his race antics), he should be going for the AB.
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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2019
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Been saying this for quite a while now. I can see 'why' he is short for this race, but as an overall profile (not his race antics), he should be going for the AB.
He's going to trials day, where he's jarveys plate..... in opposition . He looks a 2 1/2 horse to me. But it's a long way to go to know if he'll be the 1st string. Hes faced little of top quality yet. Could easily get beat beforehand and birchdale go unbeaten. ....
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Just a thought, but If CHAMP pulls over 2m4f then why would he go for the Albert Bartlett? If he pulled even more, because of the expected slower pace, he could get tailed off in that.
ComplyOrDie
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The Albert Bartlett is not run at snail pace, so, whilst he would do his usual pulling antics, I think it's more he's just a strong traveller than anything else.
I do get the concern about him beating himself during the race, but it is 3f further than the Ballymore not a mile or anything too drastic, he could see it out IMO.
Champ must be the most overrated horse in training. Glad he will take a big chunk of the market.
ComplyOrDie
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Currently under priced, would not say overrated yet myself, still has plenty to prove and should not be so short for the Ballymore.
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Overrated based on what? He’s won every task he’s been set asides from a hard task on debut against a good horse.
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Hugh Taylor would disagree
Hugh should stick to class 4's at Wolverhampton.
In all seriousness he tipped him at 20/1 and what has he done since then? Won a slowly run race against handicappers. It all comes down to price. 5/1 is too short.
A few on here have said he travels so well. Pulling is not travelling well, it's wasted energy.
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Commander Of Fleet back in with PP / Betfair, 25's into 14's.
Could or even would Gigginstown go to this race with 2 decent chances, in order to retain what Samcro won for them last season?
Could or even would Gigginstown go to this race with 2 decent chances, in order to retain what Samcro won for them last season?
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Name me a novice hurdler in training that has achieved more than Champ.
Beaten a nck by an unbeaten horse on debut.
Won two novice hurdles on the bridle.
Won an all age handicap off mark of 139.
Now rated 150.
Won a grade one novice hurdle easily enough against other multiple novice winners rated on average around 141. In a race unlikely to have suited.
All whilst pulling and wasting energy.
What's he capable of if he settles ?
Name that horse in one Betty ?
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Close, but I'd say not quite.
And I've been on him since october, when one or two were writing him off as a summer/early season horse etc.
Please refrain from calling me 'Betty' that's the 2nd time you have done that.
He's beat handicappers and the last race was a farce. He's yet to show he can settle, maybe he will.
ComplyOrDie
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A Grade 3 & a Grade 1 trumps a Handicap & a Grade 1. The handicappers he beat were nothing special, surely you know that? You say 'open age' like it's going to be a hard race for him, but the 2nd was only 5 (at the time) and the 3rd only 4 (again, at the time), so they likely have improvement ahead of them and not at their peak, all the while, physically, Champ looked a right beast. The 3 horses rated higher than him that day have done absolutely bugger all for some time now, and are woefully out of form. Le Musee, who finished 2nd that day has since been stuffed.
On his last race, I think pretty much every horse was inconvenienced by the way that was run, not just him, but again, the field, for me, was not exactly one I'd go over the top for in beating.
Don't get me wrong, I like the horse, I think he can win at the festival, in the right race, I just don't think it is this one, as I have noted prior.
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Apologies boopa, meant only in an affectionate way as the context of the last time I used it shows. It's Boopa only from now on.
But you're Not offended by that surely ?
If so how much did it hurt ?
Get someone to rub it better.
better to win a farce though than use it as an excuse.
I prefer the Aramon and Quick Grabim form to Champ. Champ is older and I like his jumping. Couldn't have him at 5/1 though. Good luck if you have a bigger price.