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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

Lobos said:
I have backed Ontheropes for the 4 miler as I think he has the perfect profile. But, and it's a Kardashian sized but, he's rated fully 12lbs behind Galvin (139/151). That's a huge amount. Just proves what a good bet Galvin is. Only wish I'd have had more on him now !
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Its only December Lobos and a lot can happen to ORs between now and then. I hope you have a saver on Court Maid Or 152 getting 7lb
 
Pendil said:
Its only December Lobos and a lot can happen to ORs between now and then. I hope you have a saver on Court Maid Or 152 getting 7lb
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I should really but I am only interested at this stage in finding Gordon, Willie and Jonjo's number 1's for the race. I'll the back the remaining best jockeys in the race blind on the day. Maybe Court Maid will be one of those.
 
Kautostar said:
Where has anything been said that pencilfulloflead is being aimed at the nh chase? I would have thought the rsa would be the aim after his last run
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This piece I read was from Declan Phelan who has connections with Robocor who own Pencil Full of Lead....
’Pencil Full of Lead will probably run in the grade 1 Novice Chase at Limerick over Christmas, his participation at the Cheltenham Festival will be dependent on soft/heavy ground arising with the National Hunt Chase his preferred race’
 
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The King Pimm said:
This piece I read was from Declan Phelan who has connections with Robocor who own Pencil Full of Lead....
’Pencil Full of Lead will probably run in the grade 1 Novice Chase at Limerick over Christmas, his participation at the Cheltenham Festival will be dependent on soft/heavy ground arising with the National Hunt Chase his preferred race’
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Thanks for the update. I hadn’t even considered the nh chase as an option after what he beat the last day and with GE not having an obvious standout rsa horse I assumed he would be targeted there.
 
Ballyfitz said:
Might see Captain Guinness out over fences again this weekend - entered in a 2m beginners chase on Sunday at Punchestown. 33/1 for the Arkle is tempting me back in if he can put that last run behind him...
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Captain Guinness with another entry in a 2 mile chase on Friday at Punchestown - hopefully we will be able to see the course this time :chuncky:
 
Kautostar said:
Thanks for the update. I hadn’t even considered the nh chase as an option after what he beat the last day and with GE not having an obvious standout rsa horse I assumed he would be targeted there.
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I thought it strange too.Gordon Elliot has 3 horses in the top 10 betting in the RSA and none of them are expected to race in it. Apart from Envoi, Galvin and PFoL you’re looking at Escaria Ten, Braid Blue, Run Wild Fred and then possibly Andy Dufrense and none of these are convincing
 
The King Pimm said:
I thought it strange too.Gordon Elliot has 3 horses in the top 10 betting in the RSA and none of them are expected to race in it. Apart from Envoi, Galvin and PFoL you’re looking at Escaria Ten, Braid Blue, Run Wild Fred and then possibly Andy Dufrense and none of these are convincing
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Probs part of the reason Monkfish has gone as short as he has. Don’t forget Easywork mind
 
Given we have short priced fav''s for the Arkle/Marsh/RSA and not a single horse priced under 10/1 in opposition, there must be gold in the streets for some pure EW acca filth:wink-new:
 
With a lot of you mentioning the apparent lack of strength in depth to the RSA I've cashed out my Chantry House bets for the Marsh (for a small profit) and put it back in for the RSA. He's a standout biggest price 20-1 with 365 and I reckon that will go if he's declared for Friday. I know there's a chance he could run on the Saturday but his first run was a little lethargic and I imagine they'll try to avoid Envoi come March. Henderson also has Fusil Raffles for the Saturday race but nothing else entered for Friday, and JPs chasers all seem speedier 2 to 2 and a half mile types so I think its a bet worth risking.
 
charlie said:
Given we have short priced fav''s for the Arkle/Marsh/RSA and not a single horse priced under 10/1 in opposition, there must be gold in the streets for some pure EW acca filth:wink-new:
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Not a bad shout. A bit early to pull the trigger for me but something like EDA (Arkle), Energuneme (Marsh) and Easywork (RSA) all 25/1 with 365 or similar could be worth a shout depending on what entries look like overs next few weeks
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Not a bad shout. A bit early to pull the trigger for me but something like EDA (Arkle), Energuneme (Marsh) and Easywork (RSA) all 25/1 with 365 or similar could be worth a shout depending on what entries look like overs next few weeks
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Your example gives you more than 100 times your initial stake. Obviously they are much harder to put together and land, but I am going to spend the weekend going over these. I suppose the most important thing to nail down early if you can is likelihood of target, and then work backwards on there on small things like ability, experience etc :sneakiness:
 
It took me a few minutes to realise who CG was. After all he has only won one race and raced four times. Household name he isn't.

In the same race Top Moon is running again. Do they really see him as a two miler/has he gone completely?
 
33/1 could look very big come Friday evening. We don't even know for certain if Unexcepted would have beaten him had he not been pulled up. Sure that market changed as if he would have but we can't say for sure as the race was to far from the finish.
 
kinloch brae said:
It took me a few minutes to realise who CG was. After all he has only won one race and raced four times. Household name he isn't.

In the same race Top Moon is running again. Do they really see him as a two miler/has he gone completely?
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Assume you mean Captain Guiness for those that don't want to search?
 
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