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Arkle 2019

If Davy is talking up a horse then expect him to be jocked up on another with a genuine chance...
 
Istabraq said:
If Davy is talking up a horse then expect him to be jocked up on another with a genuine chance...
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Tipped up The mighty Mall Dini on the Betfair podcast a few years back at 25s, but I know what you mean!
 
Told our box Presenting Percy was the worst handicapped horse of the week the year he won the Pertemps...
 
I hope Davy isn’t riding Paloma Blue because if he is he surely won’t be riding for the rest of the week!
 
Paloma blue is a horse I asked the question of on here regarding the dismissiveness of his chances. I think more because I've had a niggling feeling that he could run a big race and I fed free bets onto him for a few weeks at between 16's and 25's, even though I pretty much agreed with all the negative comments, but once down the rabbit hole I couldn't back out and I now have him, for my sins, as one of my biggest winners, mad or what? Anyway I don't go to the Arkle with loads of confidence about him, but comments like Davys does give me a little hope.
 
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MrMcGoldrick said:
Paloma blue is a horse I asked the question of on here regarding the dismissiveness of his chances. I think more because I've had a niggling feeling that he could run a big race and I fed free bets onto him for a few weeks at between 16's and 25's, even though I pretty much agreed with all the negative comments, but once down the rabbit hole I couldn't back out and I now have him, for my sins, as one of my biggest winners, mad or what? Anyway I don't go to the Arkle with loads of confidence about him, but comments like Davys does give me a little hope.
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Good luck Mr M hope you bet him ew?
 
I still have absolutely no idea what to do about Glen Forsa.

He'd be such a gigantic kick in the face if he won this race at the moment...


Just watching it back and he just absolutely blasted Kalashnikov. I know I've not rated Kalashnikov all the way through but he's not a bad horse, and he's just crushed him further than you can ignore.

I'm trying to pick holes and I can't find any at all against Kalashnikov.

The 2m4f chase on Boxing Day... he got left in front so had it pretty easy, but he jumps so well at speed that he just took the handicap apart. Glen Rocco did nothing for the form this weekend, and the ground he made up would make me think he's a little more vulnerable if he was in the JLT... but the fact he did win over 2m4f IS a plus for the Arkle too.

The handicap he won before that over 2m7m hindsight shows he was thrown in so won't take too much note of it, but again he led.

Perhaps the ONLY negative is that he has had it pretty easy in front, but Warthog gave him a lead and he was happy enough up alongside him for plenty of it.... but if he doesn't get it his own way in front is he vulnerable?

I don't think so.

I'm really, really impressed with him. I don't know how I'm going to back him, but I really like him :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
I still have absolutely no idea what to do about Glen Forsa.

He'd be such a gigantic kick in the face if he won this race at the moment...


Just watching it back and he just absolutely blasted Kalashnikov. I know I've not rated Kalashnikov all the way through but he's not a bad horse, and he's just crushed him further than you can ignore.

I'm trying to pick holes and I can't find any at all against Kalashnikov.

The 2m4f chase on Boxing Day... he got left in front so had it pretty easy, but he jumps so well at speed that he just took the handicap apart. Glen Rocco did nothing for the form this weekend, and the ground he made up would make me think he's a little more vulnerable if he was in the JLT... but the fact he did win over 2m4f IS a plus for the Arkle too.

The handicap he won before that over 2m7m hindsight shows he was thrown in so won't take too much note of it, but again he led.

Perhaps the ONLY negative is that he has had it pretty easy in front, but Warthog gave him a lead and he was happy enough up alongside him for plenty of it.... but if he doesn't get it his own way in front is he vulnerable?

I don't think so.

I'm really, really impressed with him. I don't know how I'm going to back him, but I really like him :highly_amused:
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He's my only 'proper' bet in the race - I was going to leave it until the day as I thought everything else in the race was around the right price so was going to see what conditions were like etc.

But 7s NRNB BOG seemed a bit too big for this one (not sure I'd be jumping in at 9/2 now - I'd leave until day). Being out front is a good place to be in the Arkle imo, at least if you jump well. There's the chance you put the rest under pressure, and the rest of the market leaders don't necessarily have to make a mistake themselves, but could be hampered by one of the lesser lights in the race.

Funnily enough my only other bet in race now is a free £5 on Knocknanuss at 20/1 NRNB BOG, but after that one's antics in Dublin....
 
Kevloaf said:
I still have absolutely no idea what to do about Glen Forsa.

He'd be such a gigantic kick in the face if he won this race at the moment...


Just watching it back and he just absolutely blasted Kalashnikov. I know I've not rated Kalashnikov all the way through but he's not a bad horse, and he's just crushed him further than you can ignore.

I'm trying to pick holes and I can't find any at all against Kalashnikov.

The 2m4f chase on Boxing Day... he got left in front so had it pretty easy, but he jumps so well at speed that he just took the handicap apart. Glen Rocco did nothing for the form this weekend, and the ground he made up would make me think he's a little more vulnerable if he was in the JLT... but the fact he did win over 2m4f IS a plus for the Arkle too.

The handicap he won before that over 2m7m hindsight shows he was thrown in so won't take too much note of it, but again he led.

Perhaps the ONLY negative is that he has had it pretty easy in front, but Warthog gave him a lead and he was happy enough up alongside him for plenty of it.... but if he doesn't get it his own way in front is he vulnerable?

I don't think so.

I'm really, really impressed with him. I don't know how I'm going to back him, but I really like him :highly_amused:
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I feel exactly the same Kev... think he’s a huge danger in this and I’m looking to get him into my book too.
 
Morley Street said:
I feel exactly the same Kev... think he’s a huge danger in this and I’m looking to get him into my book too.
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Might have Fast Buck now rolling on to Glen Forsa now...

If I post this I almost have to do it..... :very_drunk:
 
Kevloaf said:
Might have Fast Buck now rolling on to Glen Forsa now...

If I post this I almost have to do it..... :very_drunk:
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I think that Glen Forsa vs Kalashnikov vs Dell Oro race was a bit farcical myself.

Kalashnikov did not jump one bit, Dell Oro is not a 2miler and was only beaten by Glen Forsa some 8 lengths giving him 11lb's over 2m 4f in the previous race they met, I can't have Dell Oro suddenly being 56 lengths worse than Glen Forsa off levels.

You've made a case about Kalashnikov being a boat for some time, so it surely wouldn't be much of a shock what happened that day?
 
Yeah, good points.

He's just come from so far off my radar for this race that I can't stop thinking about him :highly_amused:
 
Glen Forsa will be better over further not fast enough for this. His form is against stayers and Kalashnikov. He'll set it up, probably for LR.
 
Kevloaf said:
Yeah, good points.

He's just come from so far off my radar for this race that I can't stop thinking about him :highly_amused:
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Rightly so, he done it well enough for sure. And I am not dead against him, but I have my doubts for sure.
 
delsie777 said:
Two words... Saint Calvados. He'll piss off far too fast and fall in the Cheltenham hole.
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As a horse that has proven to already stay much better than Saint Calvados, I'm not sure they're that similar?

Keep it coming though, the more negatives for him the happier I am haha
 
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