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Arkle 2019

Willie on RTV now said CE pulled muscle the other day whether he makes it or not...
 
Wonder where the ligament issue that was reported in the Racing Post came from. Did he sound positive or negative Boopa? Or is that a stupid question given it’s Willie we’re talking about...
 
Kevloaf said:
Ornua a potentialy fly in the ointment?
They could well get in each others way.

He's certainly not been mentioned much in the 2000+ posts so far but with the race the way it is, can't knock anything really as an each way flyer!
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Could well be an issue Kev. There are a few front runners and that is the danger; happy to take 14's though about him My other/bigger fancy is Glen Forsa and I can't help feeling that the race may be set up for more of a staying type (as it often is)
 
He doesn't know. He wasn't asked about CE he said it on his own accord. There's still hope at least.
 
SeanRock said:
Wonder where the ligament issue that was reported in the Racing Post came from. Did he sound positive or negative Boopa? Or is that a stupid question given it’s Willie we’re talking about...
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It was reported by David Jennings. Said that WPM got a call from his vet later that day and reported the ligament problem.

I'm getting my betting slips out of the bin.
 
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Ornua will be much more likely to win over an Aintree 2miles than a Cheltenham 2miles. Hopefully HDB runs him there, has done so in the past with others.
 
No wonder Defi’s going JLT :highly_amused:

It’s the hope that kills you!
 
I don't want to start to believe.

He's a loser until the day for me. Can't take being shot down again.
 
jack1092 said:
Ornua will be much more likely to win over an Aintree 2miles than a Cheltenham 2miles. Hopefully HDB runs him there, has done so in the past with others.
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Not going to skip such a pathetic looking Arkle though?
 
Bayoffreedom said:
Could well be an issue Kev. There are a few front runners and that is the danger; happy to take 14's though about him My other/bigger fancy is Glen Forsa and I can't help feeling that the race may be set up for more of a staying type (as it often is)
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The stamina he's already proven certainly a plus in his camp. [Glen Forsa]

Came from way too far off my radar for me to get significantly invested in at this (relative) late stage.

I do have Knocknanus at 20/1 NRNB but I'm in damage limitation mode so what I've backed and what I really fancy don't align anymore! Odd situation.



I actually don't eally fancy anything actually now, so just an odd race all around.
 
jack1092 said:
Runs here, but wins there after!
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Altior will be quaking in his hoofs if that happens for next season.

Side note, but if a horse like Ornua does win Spring Grade 1's, will Henderson not think he's being bananas to not just mop up grade 1 2 mile chases?

Going to be some decision to trade in a 1/4 shot in a Tingle Creek when the opposition is so poor still.
 
Would have thought if CE was gunna make it here Paddy Power would have him in the betting
 
somer1 said:
Theres only 3 firms on oddschecker with a price on CE so ya saying the rest fear taking him on?
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Why the rest, you only mentioned PP?

With regards to the rest of the bookmakers they think he is out, like we were led to believe, but assume you brought up PP due to their 'links' with the WPM yard, in which case they might not want to take him on, thus no price!
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Why the rest, you only mentioned PP?

With regards to the rest of the bookmakers they think he is out, like we were led to believe, but assume you brought up PP due to their 'links' with the WPM yard, in which case they might not want to take him on, thus no price!
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what are you talking about cod.?
they were happy to take him on before the injury ?
I thought you were joking
 
quevega said:
what are you talking about cod.?
they were happy to take him on before the injury ?
I thought you were joking
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Yeah, when the market was awash with prices for him. It's quite obvious that he was 'the Mullins Arkle horse', they had him cut before every other bookmaker each time there was a cut, you think they wanted to lay him that much?

You think if they knew he would be running that they would be as quick to add him to the market again as they were to take him down from it (the first ones BTW)?
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Yeah, when the market was awash with prices for him. It's quite obvious that he was 'the Mullins Arkle horse', they had him cut before every other bookmaker each time there was a cut, you think they wanted to lay him that much?

You think if they knew he would be running that they would be as quick to add him to the market again as they were to take him down from it (the first ones BTW)?
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They were laying him, obviously.
They've a lot of shops in Ireland, where mullins horses are obviously popular.
I'd reckon that's why they were a little shorter most of the time (not all though, as they were bigger than some during his wait to run period)
 
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