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Arkle 2018

Tim - I may be naive here, but surely you can't make slots pay.

Wrt brain power - his record at Cheltenham is poor and he'll find nothing up the hill imo. Robbie Mac said he's another 'Sickbag' and I think he's right.
 
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Brain powers record Left handed would be enough to put me off.
 
I have calculated the sectionals of all 4 races featuring Footpad & Petit Mouchair, my findings are below.

Ryanair hurdle: PM is 1.98seconds quicker than FP from first to post and 9.42 seconds quicker than the 2m4f handicap the winner of which was mid 120s and carried 7lb less. Looking at his sectionals versus the handicap, it shows he tends to go hard at the start of a race, gradually reducing speed as the race unfolds, before a drop in pace, then kick for home but he is doing his work early in his races. Footpad was never really a factor in this race.

Irish Champion hurdle: PM tries similar tactics to the Ryanair hurdle, on the clock FP is well able to match him for pace and actually runs from first to post 0.96 seconds quicker the PM. PM has a nice lead built up at the first and FPs hold up tactics prove costly going down by about 1L. Footpad is about 5.75L quicker from the 2nd last to the winning post than PM. Incredibly this race is run 20second quicker than Christmas with the going having good in the description. However, comparing the time to that of Let's Dance in the grade 2 shows the race was not the all out gallop it could have been. Let's Dance is 0.11 seconds quicker than PM from first to last and you wouldn't say she is all out in the race although she is well ridden out and in receipt of 14lb.

Champion Hurdle: Again FP is quicker first to last than PM this time by .56seconds and his hold up tactics proving costly again. Labaik was 1.06 seconds faster than PM first to post. Similar tactics used by PM again although he didn't go as hard early this time.

Hurdle races overall: Discounting the first race as FP was non-competitive, its is interesting to note that each race has 8 hurdles, in the Irish Champion, FP is nearly 5L quicker than PM between the 5th and 8th but only 0.01 second between the last and post. In the Champion Hurdle it is a similar story, FP is 3L quicker between the 5th and 8th but 0.15 slower from last to post. This really makes me question the tactics used on FP, while he can generally match the early pace that PM goes he is doing his toughest work to get into contention before the finish, therefore not leaving as much in the tank for the actual finish, a more positive ride closer to the pace would make sense.

Irish Arkle: Footpad again quicker from first to post, this time 0.8 seconds but is eased before the line. The race also compares quite favourably with the handicap chase over the same distance in which Patrick's Park was 1.3 seconds slower and all out unlike Footpad, but also carrying 26lb less. From 1st to 9th PP was approx 16.5L behind FP but about 11L quicker from 2 out. PP was all out and FP was eased so you can probably knock the bulk of that off in what was a very impressive performance.

Overall, my doubts on FP have eased considerably and I think a positive ride from the off will see him win this.

Nice one on the extensive work :)

However, despite all this I have my reservations about Footpads ability to battle when push comes to shove, he needs to either win on the bridle or through horses, I fear if he leads in the Arkle and he gets headed it's game over, so I'd either accept his hold up tactics as a risk or hope he leads them a merry dance, which given the quality of the race is unlikely IMO. I suspect tactics will be to have him tracking the leaders, due to the pace likely to be set by PM & SC, something we haven't seen him do a lot of in his races to date.
 
Nice one on the extensive work :)

However, despite all this I have my reservations about Footpads ability to battle when push comes to shove, he needs to either win on the bridle or through horses, I fear if he leads in the Arkle and he gets headed it's game over, so I'd either accept his hold up tactics as a risk or hope he leads them a merry dance, which given the quality of the race is unlikely IMO. I suspect tactics will be to have him tracking the leaders, due to the pace likely to be set by PM & SC, something we haven't seen him do a lot of in his races to date.

I have had similar reservations and from the sectionals he seems to be merely matching PM from the last in his races despite closing hard in the few hurdles before that. Maybe that says more about PM than FP. I would love to know if FP had a breathing op over the summer.

What I would say is that Ruby has been very handy in his 3 recent Arkles where he has been 211. Taking it up early with CF, UDS and Douvan.

Footpad had been in a few battles in early to mid 2016 also but I don't think he is as battle hardened as PM.
 
Only 13 left in the Arkle, 7 of those split between Mullins and Elliott
 
Tim - I may be naive here, but surely you can't make slots pay.

Wrt brain power - his record at Cheltenham is poor and he'll find nothing up the hill imo. Robbie Mac said he's another 'Sickbag' and I think he's right.


Was much easier a few years ago, most sites have screwed down on bonuses, but it's still workable.
 
I'll try and copy it Archie. Kemboy is in there.
 
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Cheers, it worked fine. I'm a little surprised because I thought that all of ours were being left in.
 
If I am wrong come 3 weeks time then I will hold my hands up, but I completely agree with the above. The form for me is poor especially at cheltenham.

His last 3 wins; Chasing - in second War Sound who hasn't won since 2015 and last two hurdles wins were against Consul de Thaix twice who has never won...I just cant have Brain Power.
 
Why has Petit Mouchoir gone blue across the board on oddschecker? any news on him or others??
 
Just looked at the race again, 3 could be going else where and a lot of dead wood that will get pulled, so my guess would be 6.. So now I can see why its getting backed..
 
There is the WITHOUT FOOTPAD betting?

Could be some NRNB "e/w value" in that.... 4 places in a 7 runner race?
 
Arkle always been the target....


Harry's wife gets a mention
 
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My problem with Footpad is I have missed the price.
Ditto SC.
My problem with PM is that O’Leary’s don’t buy 2 milers.

I need to back something ...