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Albert Bartlett Novice Hurdle 2018

Scooby91 said:
For me there is, as cracking smart was very much the one to beat and I'd go for the easier race.
They've got duc des genievres ballyward and Carter McKay atm.

Mullins and ruby not one to shirk a challenge though tbh. And might want to prove a point.
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After beating CS twice with ND, do you think they thought CS was the one to beat?

I don't personally but 100% would have ND in the Albert Bartlett as more chance of winning that than winning the Ballymore.

That was my opinion before and obviously hasn't changed with Cracking Smart coming out
 
Kevloaf said:
After beating CS twice with ND, do you think they thought CS was the one to beat?

I don't personally but 100% would have ND in the Albert Bartlett as more chance of winning that than winning the Ballymore.

That was my opinion before and obviously hasn't changed with Cracking Smart coming out
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I very much think they thought he was the one to beat. Especially with the step up in trip and ND showing a decent ammount of pace and a cruising speed. And cracking smart was made for this race.

I think hes got a very good chance in the ballymore it is his trio tbh. But id see this as a penalty kick aslong as they employed waiting tactics.
 
Scooby91 said:
I very much think they thought he was the one to beat. Especially with the step up in trip and ND showing a decent ammount of pace and a cruising speed. And cracking smart was made for this race.

I think hes got a very good chance in the ballymore it is his trio tbh. But id see this as a penalty kick aslong as they employed waiting tactics.
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The reason I backed Cracking Smart was that I thought he'd improve for the step to 3m and would reverse the form... so I can't disagree that they might have thought it...

I really, really hope he does come here. Ruby is the one who REALLY "needs" this race too isn't he, to complete 'the lot'?

You'd imagine he'll want to sit on the best chance he can, which for me is not DDG and Carter McKay wouldn't be one to hang your hat on if Next Destination was an option...
 
Kevloaf said:
The reason I backed Cracking Smart was that I thought he'd improve for the step to 3m and would reverse the form... so I can't disagree that they might have thought it...

I really, really hope he does come here. Ruby is the one who REALLY "needs" this race too isn't he, to complete 'the lot'?

You'd imagine he'll want to sit on the best chance he can, which for me is not DDG and Carter McKay wouldn't be one to hang your hat on if Next Destination was an option...
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It's tough because the only chance of winning all 3 is

Getabird
ND
DDG

DDG has a fine chance. (Missed the price as I was very happy with cracking smart ew)

The owner og ND may have something to say about the look of the Albert bartlett. But if it's left to mullins ruby. They probably want a winning chance in all 3.
 
Scooby91 said:
It's tough because the only chance of winning all 3 is

Getabird
ND
DDG

DDG has a fine chance. (Missed the price) as I was very happy with cracking smart ew.

The owner og ND may have something to say about the look of the Albert bartlett. But if it's left to mullins ruby. They probably want a winning chance in all 3.
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You could feasibly switch DDG and ND around
Give yourself a fav in 2 of the 3... and a horse who only has 1 to turn the form around with?

I don't give DGG as good as chance as his odds suggest he is.... not enough experience... as I went to a lot of effort to look at earlier that has been bumped down 3 pages due to this news haha


Samcro could setep on that dreaded little stone and it becomes a whole different picture so will just wait and see in a week how the land lies.
 
Kevloaf said:
You could feasibly switch DDG and ND around
Give yourself a fav in 2 of the 3... and a horse who only has 1 to turn the form around with?

I don't give DGG as good as chance as his odds suggest he is.... not enough experience... as I went to a lot of effort to look at earlier that has been bumped down 3 pages due to this news haha


Samcro could setep on that dreaded little stone and it becomes a whole different picture so will just wait and see in a week how the land lies.
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DDG is not going to beat samcro though tbh. Hes very good and he may well win the bartlet.
but He's not of the calibre of next destination who is a star horse in my eyes.

You never know the way things have been going.
 
Iv backed vinndication 180.0 who's aparrently not going here.

Just a tenner because it's where I'd send him. And Kim Bailey is always liable to change.
 
Could do with ND going here, would be a good ‘pick me up’ after today’s news!
 
Scooby91 said:
Iv backed vinndication 180.0 who's aparrently not going here.

Just a tenner because it's where I'd send him. And Kim Bailey is always liable to change.
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What's he done in the past? Always appeared straightforward to me.

Having said he was going to take on Samcro why would he come here just because Cracking Smart is out?
 
kinloch brae said:
What's he done in the past? Always appeared straightforward to me.

Having said he was going to take on Samcro why would he come here just because Cracking Smart is out?
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Multiple times kim Bailey has given the wrong race for charbel and changed his mind. Not saying there's any misleading in that.
Complete punt on my part as imo no chance in the ballymore and a chance in the bartlett should he run.
 
Scooby91 said:
Iv backed vinndication 180.0 who's aparrently not going here.

Just a tenner because it's where I'd send him. And Kim Bailey is always liable to change.
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I think you're spot on with the AB as Vinndications best chance, but the owners said on a preview night that he def goes Ballymore.
 
Anyone know of the plan for White Moon?

Ran a shocker last time where surely something was amiss, but looked a decent prospect before that.
 
Johar said:
Anyone know of the plan for White Moon?

Ran a shocker last time where surely something was amiss, but looked a decent prospect before that.
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Albert bartlett
 
Jumping on board the Calett Mad bandwagon. Probably been a bit blinkered by Cracking Smart but I'm surprised I didn't notice him. Looks the dour type needed to win this.
 
Now that Cracking Smart is out of the equation in the AB , what is Giggis main hope? Dortmund Park or Blow by Blow or another? A few months ago I remember the 'voice' of Irish racing interviewed G.Elliot after BBB had his return race and lost over an inadequate distance . Although I can't find any report of that I distinctly recall that he said ' Blow by Blow will only be seen in 3mile graded races from now on'. a couple of months on and he wins in testing conditions doing his best work after the line . This horse is crying out for 3M+ This years AB will be a battle against the course in testing conditions . It wouldn't be unlikely that half the field P/U. He will love it. I hope he runs.
 
luisgarciaisgod said:
Jumping on board the Calett Mad bandwagon. Probably been a bit blinkered by Cracking Smart but I'm surprised I didn't notice him. Looks the dour type needed to win this.
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I can't see how he has a chance in this. He's simply just not good enough imo.
But I wish everyone the best of luck with him he's popular on here.
 
Scooby91 said:
I can't see how he has a chance in this. He's simply just not good enough imo.
But I wish everyone the best of luck with him he's popular on here.
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Although his wins have come in handicaps I'm looking at all the other contenders and it seems to me they've either won dog rough races (Santini beating Chef Des Obeaux the exception) or ran admirably against high class novices hurders over a shorter distance. I just don't think you need a classy animal to necessarily win this and Calett Mad is about as dour and without any frills as they come.


That said I'm absolutely gutted Cracking Smart is not running, going back to scratch has further enforced my view he'd win this.
 
Bigfish said:
Now that Cracking Smart is out of the equation in the AB , what is Giggis main hope? Dortmund Park or Blow by Blow or another? A few months ago I remember the 'voice' of Irish racing interviewed G.Elliot after BBB had his return race and lost over an inadequate distance . Although I can't find any report of that I distinctly recall that he said ' Blow by Blow will only be seen in 3mile graded races from now on'. a couple of months on and he wins in testing conditions doing his best work after the line . This horse is crying out for 3M+ This years AB will be a battle against the course in testing conditions . It wouldn't be unlikely that half the field P/U. He will love it. I hope he runs.
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I’ve backed Blow By Blow for this and Dortmund Park for the Martin Pipe so selfishly hoping that’s the routes they go. Paddy Power are usually on the ball with there prices on the various targets for the Irish runners.
 
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