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Albert Bartlett Novice Hurdle 2018

Does anyone know if anything has happened to Coquin Mans? I have had a small punt for this race but now no longer in betting with bet365.

I know it is running next week over 2 miles so maybe that is why? I have contacted bet365 but as of yet not got back to me.
 
Geordieboy83 said:
Does anyone know if anything has happened to Coquin Mans? I have had a small punt for this race but now no longer in betting with bet365.

I know it is running next week over 2 miles so maybe that is why? I have contacted bet365 but as of yet not got back to me.
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He's not a horse in familiar with but he won a maiden hurdle in December last year so won't be eligible for this race.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
He's not a horse in familiar with but he won a maiden hurdle in December last year so won't be eligible for this race.
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Good spot/. Shocking in this day and age every bookie would price up an uneligible horse.

They could pay me minimum wage and I'd monitor that for them
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
He's not a horse in familiar with but he won a maiden hurdle in December last year so won't be eligible for this race.
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Thanks for this, will just have to wait and see for targets. Ran a good race yesterday behind Jezki
 
Not sure if he's been mentioned yet on here but Monbeg Legend for Henderson interests me in this race (don't think he's even priced up yet anywhere?). Good level of form shown last year and read somewhere that this will be the race for him
 
Kevloaf said:
I've requested Poli Roi for this race with 365 and been offered 25/1.

Well put in his place by Fayonagh but looks more of a staying type so unlikely to meet again?
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In light of GE's comments today in the stable tour:

Won a point-to-point at Rockfield in November prior to changing hands for £300,000 later that month, he made a winning start for his new connections in a bumper at Navan in February and went on to finish third in the Punchestown Champion Bumper.
Trainer Says:

"He’s a nice horse that could be a very good staying novice hurdler this season. He might start back in a maiden hurdle at Galway next week."
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I've just re-watched the Poli Roi 3rd behind Faynoagh in the Punchestown Champion Bumper and will have 1pt win at 25/1

Poli Roi is 1st off the bridle in the race, (whilst in 3rd) and the two ahead of him (including Fayonagh), stay ahead of him and he stays ahead of everything in behind. To me he was being outpaced and did really well to get 3rd, and just looks like the trip was too short. Okay, the quote that he may be "very good" isn't the most enthusiastic comment in the stable tour, BUT in the One Jump Ahead book, Declan Phelan says he was the second best maiden p2p winner pre Christmas last season (Finian's Oscar the best) and that "he'll enjoy the hill". I think the price is fair now... I want a little piece before he makes a debut next week.
 
It's fair to say Poli Roi needs to work on his hurdling.
 
This is a race that doesn't tend to attract much ante post play for me, and I've had a look and figured why. 2 favs winning last ten years, average price of the winner around 13/1
 
I'm a big fan of Ravenhill Road and I think this could be his target. He set some decent RPR in his 2 bumper routs last season before missing Cheltenham with a slight set back. I'm focusing on this race for him based on breeeding and trainer comments. Additional to this, the Albert Bartlett has a history of throwing up winners from the smaller yards and slightly older horses.

Quote from Brian Ellison stable tour from 19/10/2016
"He's a machine and he won very well despite running green. He showed a lot of speed for horse that needs three miles but he had been working with all the best horse and it wasn't a surprise the way he won. He'll have another run before Christmas and then will go hurdling."

There is also a nice write up in Mark Howard's book stating he has been working with all his best horses (Definitly Red and Seamour).

I requested Bet365 to add to the market and felt 33/1 is more than generous as an early each way punt.
 
Blow by Blow....... anyone heard any reports on???

Last seen beating Moon Racer, Bacardys , Presenting Percy in a Grade 1 bumper......outstayed them all, 2 cheltenham winners over 3 miles in there. Granted it was two miles but looked a right old slog the last 2 furlongs.

Best price 25s.......interesting to hear how the horse is as this price looks really tempting if form is anything to go by
 
Blow By Blow was always spoken of as a future staying chaser and I remember an article talking about how huge he was and surprising he managed to win a hot Punchestown bumper against a quality field over 2m. Breeding would definitely point towards staying distances for sure.

From Gordon Elliott stable tour on ATR 06/10/2017
"He’s back cantering and hopefully he’ll be out this side of Christmas for a maiden hurdle. He’ll probably start off over two-and-a-half miles and is probably more of a stayer in the making"
 
robith said:
This is a race that doesn't tend to attract much ante post play for me, and I've had a look and figured why. 2 favs winning last ten years, average price of the winner around 13/1
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I very nearly went in with the 25/1 pre race for Poli Roi after Kev made a very good case but it was pretty much this that stopped me robith. Looking back through my antepost season by season this race has been a bit of a shocker for me. I had the winner in Martello Tower in 2014 but that was placed on the day. For me Death Duty, No More Heroes, Kings Palace have been 3 horses i've been fairly heavily involved in early on in the season without luck. Granted even if I had waited until nearer the day I would have still sided with Death Duty last year but i'm going to make a conscious effort in this race this year to hold off slightly even if it means taking the reduced prices.

Just watched the replay of today. As much as it hampered the horse I don't think the mistake at the second last cost him the race as such - he picked up again very quickly. I think it's almost certain he'll be looking at staying trips (stating the obvious!!), needing every inch of 3 miles though so the Albert Bartlett would certainly look the race for him even more so tonight. Plenty of improvement needed but hopefully he'll find that up in trip.
 
Ballyward is the one I have my eye on for this. He is another who should really appreciate a test of stamina. 25/1 is more than fair if he is over the set back he had last season.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I'm a big fan of Ravenhill Road and I think this could be his target. He set some decent RPR in his 2 bumper routs last season before missing Cheltenham with a slight set back. I'm focusing on this race for him based on breeeding and trainer comments. Additional to this, the Albert Bartlett has a history of throwing up winners from the smaller yards and slightly older horses.

Quote from Brian Ellison stable tour from 19/10/2016
"He's a machine and he won very well despite running green. He showed a lot of speed for horse that needs three miles but he had been working with all the best horse and it wasn't a surprise the way he won. He'll have another run before Christmas and then will go hurdling."

There is also a nice write up in Mark Howard's book stating he has been working with all his best horses (Definitly Red and Seamour).

I requested Bet365 to add to the market and felt 33/1 is more than generous as an early each way punt.
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Good to have you back Jackie :encouragement: I put this in the tracker after reading MH book so will be watching the space
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I'm a big fan of Ravenhill Road and I think this could be his target. He set some decent RPR in his 2 bumper routs last season before missing Cheltenham with a slight set back. I'm focusing on this race for him based on breeeding and trainer comments. Additional to this, the Albert Bartlett has a history of throwing up winners from the smaller yards and slightly older horses.

Quote from Brian Ellison stable tour from 19/10/2016
"He's a machine and he won very well despite running green. He showed a lot of speed for horse that needs three miles but he had been working with all the best horse and it wasn't a surprise the way he won. He'll have another run before Christmas and then will go hurdling."

There is also a nice write up in Mark Howard's book stating he has been working with all his best horses (Definitly Red and Seamour).

I requested Bet365 to add to the market and felt 33/1 is more than generous as an early each way punt.
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Big fan of the horse myself had backed him for the bumper (nrnb luckily) and was waiting for someone to price him up so thanks for requesting and agree 33-1 is a fair price. Also like the look of Next destination for this solid bumper form and of the Mullins horses the one I'd expect to go up to 3 miles. Also available at 33s
 
Aye, Martello Tower is my only winner in this race (been into the sport since around 2013/14) and was placed on the Monday pre festival and on the day, so I'm in no rush
 
Robith and jono. I see your points regarding the SP of the winner BUT regardless of having the actual winner, getting the fav at a bigger price still represents value and you cam utilise that in a number of ways. (Laying/arbing) for example.

I think picking the winner of this is incredibly hard as the variable of distance isn't tested until deep in to the season BUT I will still aim to have some value on the day of the race compared to SPs
 
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Kevloaf said:
Robith and jono. I see your points regarding the SP of the winner BUT regardless of having the actual winner, getting the fav at a bigger price still represents value and you cam utilise that in a number of ways. (Laying/arbing) for example.

I think picking the winner of this is incredibly hard as the variable of distaste isn't tested until deep in to the season BUT I will still aim to have some value on the day of the race compared to SPs
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A good point Kev - I'm still essentially a rookie and this year was the first year I went after more value over trying to "find the actual winner". I got it wrong by a long way and a big part of that was not playing antepost so you've raised a good challenge.

I still think though I'll wait until around the week and back something at 16s haha
 
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