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Albert Bartlett 2020

Very good AB. Right horses pulled clear. Novices this year are very good across all distances
 
Hurricane fly said:
Had the 1-2-3 but Monkfish the worst of the 3 for me there

Assume the result will stand
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Same as you H.F - 1,2,3 . But for me, Monkfish winning gave me my biggest winning L.15 for the festival.
shishkin - 25-1.
honeysuckle - 2-1.
allmankind - 16-1.
monkfish - 16-1.
Happy day's.:D
 
Kevloaf said:
CONGRATS! ��
YOU HAVE WON £




Latest Exhibition, Thyme Hill, Monkfish & Fury Road To Be The 1-2-3-4 In Any Order



150/1



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I think that's my biggest priced winner ever....
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I had half a point on this about 90 seconds before the race at the track! My mate gave me it. Limbs as they jumped the last. We were celebrating before the line and almost forgot to see how latest exhibition and thyme hill were who we had antepost.

What a world.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I had half a point on this about 90 seconds before the race at the track! My mate gave me it. Limbs as they jumped the last. We were celebrating before the line and almost forgot to see how latest exhibition and thyme hill were who we had antepost.

What a world.
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Haha brilliant, I didn't even remember I'd put it on until I see the balance refresh and thought that was the luckiest bet I've placed in my life :highly_amused:
 
Was in the pub so obviously couldn’t hear properly but did I imagine it or was there no stewards for this race?
 
I had a I don't remember doing that bet in this race as well. Had 1pt EW on Monkfish at 16s that didn't appear on my spreadsheet, it softened my blow on Fury and Latest Exhibition a little bit
 
Kevloaf said:
Paddy..... a nice bonus - only but it on to round something down to the closest tenner haha
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Superb, lol!

They only let me have a couple quid on most things, so will remember to budget for that in my daily 10pts next year :D
 
The quality kept coming on Friday didn’t it! Goshen, Saint Roi and then this cracker. Just as a completely pointless nugget of information, I love the look of Lieutenant Rocco as a horse. Big white face, big white socks. Brilliant.


This division is one that some years I can get a bit lost with. Some of the winners are horses I’ve never have considered but this year was a good year for the novice staying division. There were around 10 horses I liked going in to the race and as plenty of people are anticipating this race looked a good one.


Monkfish made that “really bad” mistake down the back but he didn’t lose much ground at all, half a length at worst? That’s when Thyme Hill is making nice steady progress. After that Latest Exhibition makes a move to get into a nice spot too. Those three are in a line as they turn to go down the hill. Fury Road is the one who comes from a bit further back, although not that much further and he makes a move at the same time as Thyme Hill but has things a lot smoother. There isn’t really any huge value to work out which of them is the best, as they’re all clearly so closely matched. You can’t like one and not the others, so it’d be great to see where they go next season. I can certainly imagine a ‘related multiple’ with Thyme Hill and the others if he stays over hurdles. I do like Thyme Hill for the Stayers, the 16/1 that I know others have had is a fair price.


What doesn’t make a raft of sense is that Monkfish (8/1) is half the price of Fury Road and Latest Exhibition (16/1). There is a bit of 10s actually for Monkfish but that’s still 6 points shorter for a head victory? Fury Road should have just as much scope for chasing given connections and if I had to back one of them now, it’d be Fury Road at 16/1 RSA over the others. I actually like Latest Exhibition the most but can’t recall what the plan is with him.

They’ve all come 10l clear of the rest, usually the AB throws up some future winners that get well beaten, so for me this’ll be a race I come back to time and time again.
 
Kev, Nolan has definetly mentioned fences for LE
 
Yeah in that case, Fury Road and Latest Exhibition at 16/1 are good prices relative to 10/1 for Monkfish. The Monkfish price is okay too.
 
There’s a natural expectation that everything from a potato race will be an RSA runner the following year, whilst this is a natural expectation for the better horses I think this was a classy potato race and I wouldn’t be shocked if one or two headed for the Marsh.
We know Thyme Hill is bidding for a Stayers Hurdle and there will be others from the race who will be all about stamina and will head for the NH Chase, so I’d advise some caution on where we think these horses will run.

Interesting that only 3 (possibly 4) of the first 10 finishers from the 2019 potato race made this years festival (2 RSA and 1 Stayers), I haven’t gone back further but it suggests the race is brutal and either bottoms a horse or takes some recovering from....
 
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Kevloaf said:
Yeah in that case, Fury Road and Latest Exhibition at 16/1 are good prices relative to 10/1 for Monkfish. The Monkfish price is okay too.
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It's 10 months away but I'll be surprised if the RSA winner wasn't one of those 3. Three each way doubles with Thyme Hill is a bet I've been considering for a while. I think it'll turn out to be one of the best Albert Bartlett's to be run.

To be honest, as a group I think the novice hurdlers will turn out to be exceptional and there could easily be 10 grade 1 horses among them.

Envoi Allen
Shishkin
Abacadabras
Monkfish
Fury Road
Thyme Hill
Latest Exhibition
Captain Guinness
Chantry House
The Big Getaway
Easywork
The Big Breakaway

I've probably missed a few but it's a decent list for starters.
 
Istabraq said:
There’s a natural expectation that everything from a potato race will be an RSA runner the following year, whilst this is a natural expectation for the better horses I think this was a classy potato race and I wouldn’t be shocked if one or two headed for the Marsh.
We know Thyme Hill is bidding for a Stayers Hurdle and there will be others from the race who will be all about stamina and will head for the NH Chase, so I’d advise some caution on where we think these horses will run.
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If I were to chance one for the Marsh it would be Latest Exhibition. I'm not saying he didn't stay 3 miles (he clearly did) but if you compare his performance at the DRF to Cheltenham then Fury Road has made up 5 lengths on him so has definitely improved for the distance more than Latest Exhibition.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
It's 10 months away but I'll be surprised if the RSA winner wasn't one of those 3. Three each way doubles with Thyme Hill is a bet I've been considering for a while. I think it'll turn out to be one of the best Albert Bartlett's to be run.

To be honest, as a group I think the novice hurdlers will turn out to be exceptional and there could easily be 10 grade 1 horses among them.

Envoi Allen
Shishkin
Abacadabras
Monkfish
Fury Road
Thyme Hill
Latest Exhibition
Captain Guinness
Chantry House
The Big Getaway
Easywork
The Big Breakaway

I've probably missed a few but it's a decent list for starters.
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I agree about the novice hurdling group being potentially exceptional, but I'm not fully convinced one of Albert Bartlett three will be victorious in the RSA. As it currently stands (as you say it is 10 months out still) it is a deep enough race.

It will certainly be interesting to see how many are split up (from same yards or owners).

I think Bobs Worth (some 8 years ago) was the last horse to follow up an Albert Bartlett win with the RSA, in recent years I'd suggest there has been a slight change in the type of horse to win an RSA, it seems some horses have come from the intermediate trip to go on to RSA success, which I think has changed what is required in the process, IMO.

I'd worry about Monkfish looking like an out and out stayer (IMO), as opposed to having the tactical speed for a race like the RSA. Possibly could say Latest Exhibition has a bit more speed about him, and he's one I've yet to back, so having a good think about getting him on side.
 
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taylorch1990 said:
If I were to chance one for the Marsh it would be Latest Exhibition. I'm not saying he didn't stay 3 miles (he clearly did) but if you compare his performance at the DRF to Cheltenham then Fury Road has made up 5 lengths on him so has definitely improved for the distance more than Latest Exhibition.
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Yeah i agree with that, it why i let my fury road bet run with a bit of confidence i thought the track and trip would bring improvement from him and it did, fences definitely will in my opinion
 
I think that this is one division where Punchestown would have been very useful in augmenting the form.

I think that Monkfish is probably the best of the first three over hurdles but very hard to judge how each will go over fences.
 
archie said:
I think that this is one division where Punchestown would have been very useful in augmenting the form.

I think that Monkfish is probably the best of the first three over hurdles but very hard to judge how each will go over fences.
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Very true. It probably hasn't been stated enough how difficult it is to judge these horses without having the form confirmed or tested at the latter festivals.
 
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