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2026 Novice Chasers

The Lossie (Champion Hurdle) and Jade (Mares Hurdle) double is one I'm sure many of us have got. The related part of it creates obvious value. Even if I'm not sure I'd really fancy Jade to beat Wodhooh.
Yeah I've not done the doubles, just singles, cos Wodhooh looks fairly bulletproof to me.
Jade been layed regularly at 20's on betfair, I took the 20-1.
 
Betting seems to suggest Romeo Coolio is going to run in the Irish Arkle at DRF. Be a good race if Kopek makes it.

And I suppose it'll give them an idea of where Romeo is with the 2 milers ahead of Cheltenham.

Wasn't expecting him to run there though. Had hoped for an easier race for Kopek, with the interrupted prep. May only win 10 lengths or so now.
Betting does suggest that, but why is Gordon sending Kala conti to Scilly Isles and not to the 2 and a half mile at DRF?
Is he splitting them so both go mid trip?
 
I know it's like a stuck record but I'm still worried about Kopek. Unibet have priced up the Irish Arkle like he's a NR already....13/8 Kargese and 9/4 Romeo.
 
I know it's like a stuck record but I'm still worried about Kopek. Unibet have priced up the Irish Arkle like he's a NR already....13/8 Kargese and 9/4 Romeo.
Unibet have kopek at evens.
 
Unibet have kopek at evens.
I think Lobos is saying that the other 2 prices are defensive enough to suggest Kopek maybe not running.
Probably bookies just being bookies.
Year after year the dublin markets are dodgy as fuck.
minefield for ante
 
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Q beat me to it...😂
 
It's shocking from Unibet that. Kopek should be about 3s if they want to price the other two like that antepost!
 
I think Lobos is saying that the other 2 prices are defensive enough to suggest Kopek maybe not running.
Probably bookies just being bookies.
Year after year the dublin markets are dodgy as fuck.
minefield for ante
Aye i thought that after i mentioned it :ROFLMAO: Most places have him at evens so has been a little drift as he was generally 4/5 or 10/11.
 
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It's shocking from Unibet that. Kopek should be about 3s if they want to price the other two like that antepost!
Yep. Proper taking the piss if they know anything as they'll continue to take stakes on Kopek. If he was 3's then everyone would know he was not running.
 
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A few points from Willies note;

1) am I reading the above correctly in that if you run in a ‘beginners chase’ then whether you win or not, you automatically lose your novice status for the following year ? - that appears to be the implication.

2) so we now know what Willie thinks ‘very competitive’ means…..it’s where you have around a 20lb rating advantage to the rest of the field!😂 (based upon Sundays race in which she is 1/5 to win)

3) why would Willie mention ‘reverting to hurdles’ or even contemplate it, when JDG appears to have jumped well on her two novice chases this season, the last when just being beaten by a horse highly thought of and who is third fav for this seasons BANC?….also when she is a 1/5 shot to win her first chase of the season on Sunday?

Something just seems ‘afoot’ here as JDG shouldn’t be 25/1 for the Mares Chase IMO unless you have a very strong view (or intel) that says that she is very unlikely to run in the Mares Chase at this years festival……why…..well she was due to go chasing last season (9/1 AP to win the Mares Chase early doors) before a small injury that meant she had an interrupted season which resulted in the decision to stay hurdling……she beat all bar Lossiemouth in last years Mares Hurdle at the festival and was third to Golden Ace and BDA in the previous years Mares novice hurdle at the festival……she also trounced Spindleberry over hurdles beforehand……an impressive CV from a graded Mare starting a novice chase campaign. If converting her hurdle rating to fences then she has nothing to fear from most in the Mares Chase betting and if showing a few pounds improvement then none bar maybe, Dinoblue

If you say her first run this year was poor, given how far she was beaten by Kala Conti, who she should have beaten easily based upon hurdles form for both, then wasn’t it at a time where we were saying that Willies looked to be needing their first runs ? Also the same Kala Conti who went on to beat Kargese and is now being talked about as a live contender for a few different chases at the festival this season.

Her second run appeared much better and she looked the winner before the last, maybe just being outstayed by the TBW?…..TBW whose form ties in with JDS, which before his last run in heavy ground, looked the best staying novice chase form at the time bar Final Demand?

Do the layers think her race at the festival could be dependent upon whether Lossiemouth runs in the CH…..is that what a part of the 25/1 price to win the Mares Chase is, rather than form?

Unless she going to be one horse that doesn’t at least match their hurdle rating over fences, or we are being ‘put away’, then she should be half the price she is in the Mares Chase and most certainly not 5/1 to finish second or third, which she effectively is at 25/1.

However I am reluctant to go in again as I have in the back of my mind that ‘reverting’ could still be the number one option for Willie and in turn her festival target, irrespective of Sundays win, as he did initially say at the end of last season that he might keep her hurdling this year and there was the ‘one of either JDG and Kargese would stay hurdling’ in this years stable tours info…..yet that was cobblers as both have run in two novice chases so far this season! 😂 …..so maybe ‘reverting’ could also be cobblers !😂

This Cheltenham AP game is hard enough without the contradicting trainer info we get from a few trainers, so maybe it’s the opposite viewpoint to the trainer that sometimes offers the value, although with it additional risk 🤔
To answer your no. 1 question. No, you only lose your novice status once you win a race. What I think Mullins is getting at is that she could run and comfortably win a Beginners Chase but then lose her novice status. However, she could also run in a more competitive novice chase. If she wins then it's a bonus and justifies her chasing ability. If she loses then she is still a novice and they can save her for next season, reverting back to hurdles for the rest of this year.
 
dog of a thing

Doesn't want one bit of it in a fight

Fought well enough in the Supreme, albeit one of the worst renewals in recent times!

Handicap thing though, isn't he?
 
To answer your no. 1 question. No, you only lose your novice status once you win a race. What I think Mullins is getting at is that she could run and comfortably win a Beginners Chase but then lose her novice status. However, she could also run in a more competitive novice chase. If she wins then it's a bonus and justifies her chasing ability. If she loses then she is still a novice and they can save her for next season, reverting back to hurdles for the rest of this year.
Thanks RR

Tomorrows novice chase is not exactly ‘competitive’ at all to be honest and the market suggests she will most likely lose her novice status - which if the case will contradict Willies public statement around his thinking for ‘reverting

My feeling remains in that we are not being told the truth about the campaign plan this season

If connections are not punters then why not just be up front about plans and whether they are affected by other horses, either race related or strength of opponent related…..
 
After timing - just I have Slade Steel in my tracker since last year for a handicap
Saw his price today and jus ignored the race, didnt watch it and only come to know the results from the comments above
Soft ground, handicap (think he can still run in the novice right), over mid trip, I'd be backing at the bigger prices
 
A good bit ago that now though.

Duno just every chase start now hes fell in a hole

Could be an issue there, that or he's gone soft
Was he injured when he took that year off ?
Might be he's feeling something nowdays hence not putting it all in when asked.