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2026 Juveniles

FredFlintstone said:
I wonder would they would consider running Proactive in a novice if all goes well for him and Narciso?
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If Proactif bolts up then one to the Supreme and one to the Triumph would definitely be considered you'd think. They did it with Franchoek and Binocular many years ago.

And JP has nothing of any note yet in the Supreme.
 
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Prestbury said:
If Proactif bolts up then one to the Supreme and one to the Triumph would definitely be considered you'd think. They did it with Franchoek and Binocular many years ago.

And JP has nothing of any note yet in the Supreme.
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They had another in the Supreme that year, and it won.
 
Did want to keep her under wraps for a potential Boodles plot but maybe they're aiming bigger

Selma De Vary entered in the G1 Juvenile Hdle.
 
Well found in the market for the Boodles @ 16/1

Only Unibet pricing for the Triumph @ 16/1 - all other bookmakers not pricing her up yet
 
Wayward Lad said:
Well found in the market for the Boodles @ 16/1

Only Unibet pricing for the Triumph @ 16/1 - all other bookmakers not pricing her up yet
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Yeah they were very tight in the boodles pricing

Took big on the machine myself
 
darlojim said:
Yeah they were very tight in the boodles pricing

Took big on the machine myself
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I think if he went straight to the boodles then his mark would just be the usual conversion of his French rating?

By running him at the drf, he'll get irish tax. So you'd assume they're thinking bigger. Unless they're willing to get tax just to give him a sighter of the different obstacles at race speed. Gaelic warriors loss in the back of their mind maybe.
 
riccirich said:
I think if he went straight to the boodles then his mark would just be the usual conversion of his French rating?

By running him at the drf, he'll get irish tax. So you'd assume they're thinking bigger. Unless they're willing to get tax just to give him a sighter of the different obstacles at race speed. Gaelic warriors loss in the back of their mind maybe.
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he is a she

132 she would be

She's a winner already, so maybe just throw her in and see what happens

Anyone that hasnt seen her last run, would very much advise it is worth a watch of the full race (y)
 
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darlojim said:
he is a she

132 she would be

She's a winner already, so maybe just throw her in and see what happens

Anyone that hasnt seen her last run, would very much advise it is worth a watch of the full race (y)
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So you dont think she is flying too high if targeting the Triumph Jim ?

Betfair showing 32/1 now from 40/1 earlier
 
Wayward Lad said:
So you dont think she is flying too high if targeting the Triumph Jim ?

Betfair showing 32/1 now from 40/1 earlier
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Think she's a lot of untapped potential really

Looked to improve an enormous amount from the Spring to the Autumn

The entry is certainly a positive note imo.
 
darlojim said:
Think she's a lot of untapped potential really

Looked to improve an enormous amount from the Spring to the Autumn

The entry is certainly a positive note imo.
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Big issue for me, is her sire.

If you couldn't care less about breeding then fair enough, a horse on the improve, but Zarak's tend to always not enjoy the Cheltenham hill.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Big issue for me, is her sire.

If you couldn't care less about breeding then fair enough, a horse on the improve, but Zarak's tend to always not enjoy the Cheltenham hill.
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You know I don't take too much notice into that stuff :ROFLMAO:

Would many have ran at the festival from him with genuine chances?
 
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Glad to see that Cromwell has confirmed North Shore is the Triumph horse for the yard when talking to the RP today, taken some of the 100/1 on Bet365 ahead of the DFR as the first run showed enough promise to think a 3 figure price was a overreaction imo.
 
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darlojim said:
You know I don't take too much notice into that stuff :ROFLMAO:

Would many have ran at the festival from him with genuine chances?
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Zarak The Brave, Mistergif & Highwind.

A couple there came with reputations, but never materialised into anything that great.
 
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ComplyOrDie said:
Zarak The Brave, Mistergif & Highwind.

A couple there came with reputations, but never materialised into anything that great.
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Very small sample as only 7 runners to date, no winners and only 1 placed. Based on BSP would be expected to have 0.5 winners and 1.6 places so nothing really well fancied.

Its an angle worth looking at though if you can see something early - there are a number of sires that I have reservations about specifically at Cheltenham.
 
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ComplyOrDie said:
Zarak The Brave, Mistergif & Highwind.

A couple there came with reputations, but never materialised into anything that great.
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Zarak missed didn't he

Mistergif ran OK

Highwind was a bit of a dud

Something to maybe look out for but of the 2, suppose none were 'fancied' to win or go close were they

Highwind a 33s shot
Mistergif 18/1
 
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Prestbury said:
Very small sample as only 7 runners to date, no winners and only 1 placed. Based on BSP would be expected to have 0.5 winners and 1.6 places so nothing really well fancied.

Its an angle worth looking at though if you can see something early - there are a number of sires that I have reservations about specifically at Cheltenham.
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Absolutely, but when the master of Closutton struggles to get one or a few to go close I get this over riding feeling that maybe he just doesn't produce types suitable for Cheltenham. The one positive for Selma is that she is out of an Authorized mare. If the influence is on the dams side she could have plenty of stamina, but Zarak definitely tempers enthusiasm for me.

I also have reservations on a fair few, not just specifically for Cheltenham but also to produce an animal of high enough calabre to win a decent renewal of a G1 race. You will obviously get anomalies, especially in seasons where they are poor renewals of the races, like the years Slade Steel & Summerville Boy won their Supremes, both of their sires, Telescope & Sandmason, have produced bugger all really, and neither of them animals have gone on to do a whole heap since, albeit there is still time for Slade Steel to do so, but by and large he's looked more like a handicap plot than anything else as it stands!
 
darlojim said:
Zarak missed didn't he

Mistergif ran OK

Highwind was a bit of a dud

Something to maybe look out for but of the 2, suppose none were 'fancied' to win or go close were they

Highwind a 33s shot
Mistergif 18/1
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Went to the Champion Hurdle, one of the worst renewals, I personally believe, and finished 4th behind Luccia, Irish Point & State Man.
 
EnvoiAlien said:
Glad to see that Cromwell has confirmed North Shore is the Triumph horse for the yard when talking to the RP today, taken some of the 100/1 on Bet365 ahead of the DFR as the first run showed enough promise to think a 3 figure price was a overreaction imo.
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Agree with this. Looked a very Cromwell-like introduction. Gently, gently. Could see it running much better next time out.
 
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