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2026 Gold Cup

Lobos said:
Hoping Inothewayurthinking gets stuffed again today to push his GC price out. Betting suggests he will ! Out to 5/1 from 13/8
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Unfortunately I don’t thinks thems bookies will drift him much bigger than 4/1, even if he loses today

I hope to be proved wrong though!👍
 
….worth keeping an eye on placed horses today, pinched this from Saxon;
2024
1st GDC - 2nd in GC
2nd F2F - won Ryanair
4th Heartwood - 2nd Ryanair
5th Inothewayurthinkin - won GC
 
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Wayward Lad said:
Unfortunately I don’t thinks thems bookies will drift him much bigger than 4/1, even if he loses today

I hope to be proved wrong though!👍
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Wait until after he gets stuffed again at DRF

As our mate in Brave heart said....



HOLD!!!!!!
 
The savills looks set for an upset to me

Inothewayurthinkin is drifting hugely suggesting hes out for another jog around

Galopin had a set back and willies have been running poorly on debut

The bottom 5 in the betting are likely on grand national mark protection duty

Of the others i have had a nibble on lecky watson and champ kiely.

Id probably rather galopin won though as hes my 2nd favourite chaser of recent years after allaho
 
….Ruby Walsh on the KG;

The Willie Mullins team are unlikely to look back on the race with much pleasure from a tactical perspective. With Gaelic Warrior they have always opted to ride him with some restraint when stepping up to three miles, even after his stamina for the trip had long been proven. When Il Est Francais clearly wasn’t going much of a gallop, Paul Townend could have changed plan and taken the initiative, but he chose to stay in the box seat taking a strong grip behind the leader and the relative sprint that transpired didn’t play to his strengths.

As speculated might be the case in my aforementioned race preview, perhaps his connections were more so thinking about how they will want to ride him to get the trip in the stronger test of stamina that is the Gold Cup at the Cheltenham Festival and didn’t want to risk lighting him up here, but one suspects that he could have won this race with a more positive ride.

Likewise, Fact To File was ridden like a doubtful stayer rather than a Brown Advisory Novices' Chase winner. The quieter ride didn’t play to his strengths in jumping terms and he also raced a bit more freely than ideal. Most significantly, it left him out of position when the pace quickened and he didn’t have the same sort of gears as Banbridge to get competitive from there.

Many are likely to use this run as evidence that his best trip is over shorter and a drop in trip for the Ryanair Chase looks very likely, but I wouldn’t judge him too harshly on this performance. The Punchestown Gold Cup could offer him the opportunity to win a big one at this trip if he is ridden more forwardly.

The other one that was heavily involved in the finish was the Nicky Henderson-trained Jango Baie. The youngest horse in the field and racing over three miles for the first time in his life, he emerged from the race with a huge amount of credit. He raced three-wide with no cover for most of the race and steadily worked his way onto the winner’s shoulder on the turn for home. Despite being the one that was stepping up in trip, he was the first of the big guns to come off the bridle and ever-so-slightly messy leaps at the third-last and second-last fences didn’t help.

He rallied just as well as the winner up the run-in to be beaten just ½-length and his connections are very much entitled to look forward to a rematch with those that finished in front of him in the Gold Cup at the Cheltenham Festival.

So, what more can be said? That was a horse race we will all remember for a very long time. It was exactly what the National Hunt season needed and indeed what was needed to remind everyone just what Kempton can deliver.

We’ll see what happens in the Savills Chase at Leopardstown on Sunday, but the staying chase division looks poised to keep delivering blockbusters for the rest of the season.
 
BigL said:
I think Lecky Watson will be held up out of the back looking to drop down the handicap. Affordable fury couldn't even beat a 12 yo envoi Allen. Can't see beyond the top 3 here even if they
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Eggs said:
….Ruby Walsh on the KG;

The Willie Mullins team are unlikely to look back on the race with much pleasure from a tactical perspective. With Gaelic Warrior they have always opted to ride him with some restraint when stepping up to three miles, even after his stamina for the trip had long been proven. When Il Est Francais clearly wasn’t going much of a gallop, Paul Townend could have changed plan and taken the initiative, but he chose to stay in the box seat taking a strong grip behind the leader and the relative sprint that transpired didn’t play to his strengths.

As speculated might be the case in my aforementioned race preview, perhaps his connections were more so thinking about how they will want to ride him to get the trip in the stronger test of stamina that is the Gold Cup at the Cheltenham Festival and didn’t want to risk lighting him up here, but one suspects that he could have won this race with a more positive ride.

Likewise, Fact To File was ridden like a doubtful stayer rather than a Brown Advisory Novices' Chase winner. The quieter ride didn’t play to his strengths in jumping terms and he also raced a bit more freely than ideal. Most significantly, it left him out of position when the pace quickened and he didn’t have the same sort of gears as Banbridge to get competitive from there.

Many are likely to use this run as evidence that his best trip is over shorter and a drop in trip for the Ryanair Chase looks very likely, but I wouldn’t judge him too harshly on this performance. The Punchestown Gold Cup could offer him the opportunity to win a big one at this trip if he is ridden more forwardly.

The other one that was heavily involved in the finish was the Nicky Henderson-trained Jango Baie. The youngest horse in the field and racing over three miles for the first time in his life, he emerged from the race with a huge amount of credit. He raced three-wide with no cover for most of the race and steadily worked his way onto the winner’s shoulder on the turn for home. Despite being the one that was stepping up in trip, he was the first of the big guns to come off the bridle and ever-so-slightly messy leaps at the third-last and second-last fences didn’t help.

He rallied just as well as the winner up the run-in to be beaten just ½-length and his connections are very much entitled to look forward to a rematch with those that finished in front of him in the Gold Cup at the Cheltenham Festival.

So, what more can be said? That was a horse race we will all remember for a very long time. It was exactly what the National Hunt season needed and indeed what was needed to remind everyone just what Kempton can deliver.

We’ll see what happens in the Savills Chase at Leopardstown on Sunday, but the staying chase division looks poised to keep delivering blockbusters for the rest of the season.
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The riding forwards point on F2F is a big one. He's not quite as good as Allaho but Allaho won over 3m when racing from the front still, taking the rest out of their comfort zone and it made the extra furlongs irrelevant as he'd already broken the rest of them and they couldn't bridge the gap. They'd have to do the same with F2F if they try 3m again.
 
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How disappointing for GDC. Just hope it’s the usual Mullins horses cutting out, and Galopin will comeback stronger.
 
Envoi form boost! He couldn't could he? Fuck I would love it!
 
Have taken the 15/2 for galopin

Perfectly respectable run on reappearance after a slight setback

With no top novices coming through think its a very fair price

Have to say i think the way inothewayurthinkin is campaigned is a disgrace and a very poor look for the sport

I hope he finishes out of the back of the tele in this years race tbh
 
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I imagine Willie will be delighted with GDC after his troubles
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Have taken the 15/2 for galopin

Perfectly respectable run on reappearance after a slight setback

With no top novices coming through think its a very fair price

Have to say i think the way inothewayurthinkin is campaigned is a disgrace and a very poor look for the sport

I hope he finishes out of the back of the tele in this years race tbh
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Let's face it, it wasn't as if he wasn't trying, he was just crap on the day. Ground way too quick for him ? Leopardstown speed track compared to Cheltenham. He'll get stuffed again in February giving us all 10/1 about him fora repeat.
 
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Cromwell very disappointed with Inothewayurthinking run. Expecting much better than that. Going to get him home and check him out.
 
Lobos said:
Cromwell very disappointed with Inothewayurthinking run. Expecting much better than that. Going to get him home and check him out.
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Cromwell knows exactly what was up. You can’t be risking the extra crunchy carrots four times a year.

There’s not a snowflakes chance in hell that Inothewayurthinkin or GDC go off an ew price on the day, in my opinion. 7/1 about both is very fair.

I think the King George form is being overrated, given its historic failure to serve as a good prep race for the GC and that this years race turned into a sprint. Not to say the horses running in it won’t be sighted, just that the race as it was isn’t factoring in my thoughts much.
 
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Agree
I did take 8/1 for GDC and that’s goes with Jango Baie and GW antepost before the KG… but I’m going to have a closer look at the GC tomorrow

I do think GDC is less likely to win given his age. inotheway, I just can’t take to, just got a nighle he may have over ran in the Gold Cup - hard to win back to back

Novice from last season look poor

But with half the season done, and some of the main trials done, who’s winning this one…
 
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