Anyone else think that marine nationale now looks a good thing for this ? Iet record at Cheltenham is bad and maj can't jump
Haha well I hope so as my antepost bet is on majborough .... But it ain't looking good for majborough with that jumpingWait till Majborough wallops him at Xmas.
Would you not be worried he needs better ground, yes he previously won on heavy over hurdles but has avoided bad ground since his defeat last season.Anyone else think that marine nationale now looks a good thing for this ? Iet record at Cheltenham is bad and maj can't jump
I think what I was trying say to was much much better articulated by Kevin Blake!Watching Majborough reminds me of watching El Fabiolo in that I'm always hoping the next approaching fence isn't going to be clobbered!
It's clear to see that Maj isn't the best of jumpers but boy does he have a massive engine. Today was Found A Fifty's Gold Cup, third run of the season and being given weight by a horse who was having his debut on an unfavoured right hand track. If Maj hadn't clobbered the second last, he would have won imo.
I know some don't pay attention to RPRs but what will FAF get for this run? He already got a 167 last time out so I think he'll get something similar. With this in mind, Maj can't be rated too far behind imo, so just imagine what he can achieve when fully fit, going left handed and jumping slightly cleaner? There's always going to be mistakes and unclean jumps but unless he makes a serious race ending mistake, he would still be the CC winner imo. So basically, you would be betting 6/1 if he makes a serious race ending mistake or not. Note El Fabiolo did just this when going off 2/9 a couple of years ago!
Not having it, his jumping yesterday and every other chase run to date has been terrible. One bad mistake puts you out of the champion chase and you can bank on him doing that….Kevin Blake’s take on Maj;
We see the power of suggestion in action all the time in horse racing. If an influential voice makes a comment or offers a theory on a race or horse, it is remarkable how quickly it can become accepted as the definitive interpretation, even if it doesn’t stand up to closer scrutiny.
I believe we saw a prime example of this in the Hilly Way Chase at Cork on Sunday.
The Willie Mullins-trained Majborough was sent off at 4/6 to make a winning start to his campaign and consolidate his position as the ante-post favourite for the Queen Mother Champion Chase. However, he was beaten by 1½ lengths by Found A Fifty, with a great amount of negative scrutiny being aimed at his jumping. Such was the negative reaction to his performance that he doubled in price for the Queen Mother Champion Chase from 3/1 to 6/1.
The thing is, I really can’t see what the fuss is about, and actually thought he ran a career-best race in defeat.
First of all, let’s deal with what has been the main focus of his performance - his jumping. Just to make sure that my view wasn’t being unduly influenced by pre-conceived views, I re-watched all of his starts over fences back-to-back from his chasing debut onwards.
Throughout his time over fences, Majborough has been consistent in his jumping tendencies. He is generally a low, attacking jumper of a fence. He habitually adjusts to his left, which has been magnified by the fact that three of his five starts over fences have come around right-handed tracks. Most significantly, he isn’t very good at shortening up into his fences when required. He is naturally aggressive, and when he is on a wrong stride he has more often than not just launched himself at the fence. Though, with one exception where he bulldozed through the second-last fence in the Arkle and lost his hind legs on landing, these occasional clumsy leaps haven’t tended to cost him much ground or momentum.
So, in the context of what we already knew about Majborough’s tendencies, I really didn’t see anything surprising or concerning in his jumping performance last Sunday.
Yes, he adjusted to his left quite a bit, which was costly around this right-handed track. Nothing new there. He was a shade clumsy at a couple when needing to shorten, but again there was nothing new in that and he didn’t lose any ground of note in doing so. The most significant mistake he made came at the second-last fence, when he got in close and looked to bulldoze his way through it. But, while it looked dramatic, he didn’t appear to lose much more than half a length as a consequence.
Going back to the power of suggestion, I believe commentators can have an impact on the perception of the viewer. Given that Majborough already had negative focus on his jumping after his memorable error in the Arkle, perhaps the fact that the brilliant Jerry Hannon made a negative comment on five of Majborough’s last seven jumps on Sunday played a role in shaping the flavour of response to the performance. Mullins amplified the negativity by declaring his disappointment with his round of jumping immediately after the race too. Before long, all that could be seen on social media were multitudes of adjectives declaring how abysmally Majborough had jumped.
Doctors differ and all that, but I just can’t agree with such assessments. Of course, viewed in isolation, it wasn’t the round of jumping one would ideally want to see from a potential Queen Mother Champion Chase winner, but that is Majborough’s way and that way hasn’t stopped him quickly rising to the top end of the table in the two-mile chase division.
When one has dealt with Majborough’s jumping, I felt his overall performance on the day was also far better than it was given credit for. Found A Fifty has had a few blips in his career, but he is a serious horse that is worth every bit of his official rating of 164 on his day. He came into the Hilly Way hard-fit, having already had two runs this season, and with conditions to suit. Majborough faced a far tougher task in giving away 4lb to him around a right-handed track than the market suggested, and there was absolutely no shame in being beaten by him on the day. While he was beaten, he actually comes out of the race as the best horse at the weights, and to me that represents a career-best effort from him.
As should be obvious at this stage, I think the market has completely overreacted in pushing Majborough out to 6/1 for the Queen Mother Champion Chase. He will presumably return to his preferred left-handed track at Leopardstown next time, and with the benefit of this run under his belt even better can be expected there.
Given all that has been said above about his jumping tendencies, in a perfect world I would love to see him ridden with an aggression that matches his own characteristics. He clearly doesn’t excel when asked to shorten at a fence and can get himself in bother, so I’d love to see him ridden forwardly and attacking his fences. That isn’t natural style of his regular rider Mark Walsh, but such a style of ride is what appeals as being likely to make the best of Majborough.
Wherever he goes and whatever way he is ridden, Majborough promises to be seriously exciting viewing. I am certainly keeping the faith in him as a future Queen Mother Champion Chase winner anyway.
Not having it, his jumping yesterday and every other chase run to date has been terrible. One bad mistake puts you out of the champion chase and you can bank on him doing that
BHA also award a performance figure on each race in addition to changing or leaving the official rating.Plenty of views have been aired re RPRs, the reality is RPRs are given to every horse for every performance so there will be mistakes and they are there to be shot down.
The BHA only have to give/amend Official Ratings so a horse like Banbridge who was beat 20 odd lengths will probably have his mark left unchanged or they might drop him a pound, the Racing Post have to give him a 'rating' for his performance, which they have done at 140, the BHA won't be dropping him a stone based on an effort some will see as below par.
I don't have a firm view but I do have some sympathy with them having to provide an assessment for every run, which will be in the region of a thousand a week....
If he was a terrible jumper, he just wouldn't finish within a length of FAF (a solid yardstick) on his first run of the season and in open company. He's a decent jumper who does make several mistakes because he's chancey.Not having it, his jumping yesterday and every other chase run to date has been terrible. One bad mistake puts you out of the champion chase and you can bank on him doing that
What’s your view re Constitution Hill ?’If he was a terrible jumper, he just wouldn't finish within a length of FAF (a solid yardstick) on his first run of the season and in open company. He's a decent jumper who does make several mistakes because he's chancey.
I hadn't backed beforehand but I'll take the revised 6s now. I actually quite like that, despite making several errors in his races, he always finds a leg, it'll serve him well. He obviously could do with sharpening his jumping but I wouldn't be too concerned personally. They just need to teach him to see a stride. Could be similar to Kauto, who finds bundles of improvement when upped in trip. We know he'll stay
Raceiq jumps data had Maj as jumping better than FAF.If he was a terrible jumper, he just wouldn't finish within a length of FAF (a solid yardstick) on his first run of the season and in open company. He's a decent jumper who does make several mistakes because he's chancey.
I hadn't backed beforehand but I'll take the revised 6s now. I actually quite like that, despite making several errors in his races, he always finds a leg, it'll serve him well. He obviously could do with sharpening his jumping but I wouldn't be too concerned personally. They just need to teach him to see a stride. Could be similar to Kauto, who finds bundles of improvement when upped in trip. We know he'll stay
I think it's slightly different because Maj is young and (likely) improving for one, but has never fell despite mistakes. CH can't be trusted to get round at the minute.What’s your view re Constitution Hill ?’
I haven’t seen comments from last weekend so no idea if you’ve shared an opinion on him, I’m just interested in the thinking, backing top class horses with jumping flaws because they’ve reached a point you believe they’re value….
As far as I’m aware, the Race IQ stuff isn’t really about how well they jump it’s based on speed into the jump and then away from the jump. So in this instance the mistakes Majborough was making, didn’t halt any momentum at the other side, he still manages to get away at 2m speed required to look good on the data.Raceiq jumps data had Maj as jumping better than FAF.
https://www.racingtv.com/results/2025-12-07/cork/1450