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2025, The Odds on Offer

Oh ffs :glee::hopelessness: one has a bet credit within it too so have to look at it all year now.
 
:excitement: Just cashed one out for a 5% loss FFS
 
El fabiolo just didn't look like the same horse there

Normally tanks round but didn't today
 
Let’s see the Jonbon critics come out now :boxing:

Couldn’t resist haha!

El Fabs Jumping is poor regardless what anyone says, he hits so many fences being so low over them. He’s a beast but jumping is the name of the game and it’s bound to take its toll.

Nico is the difference for Jonbon 100%.
 
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Bon Jovi will stay over 2 now after that. El Fabiolo more likely to step up now perhaps, leaving GW for Champion Chase.
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
He always jumps like that

Would have to put a line through 2 poor runs now

Not sure I'm that forgiving
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Was keen as a kid at a candy store going to post, jumped like a snooker table at every fence and still finished like a train I'm happy to forgive and go back in some more with some multis antepost for next years QMCC
 
Craigy14 said:
Let’s see the Jonbon critics come out now :boxing:

Couldn’t resist haha!

El Fabs Jumping is poor regardless what anyone says, he hits so many fences being so low over them. He’s a beast but jumping is the name of the game and it’s bound to take its toll.

Nico is the difference for Jonbon 100%.
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Yep, Nico the key
That was very enjoyable!!
 
Zachx02 said:
Was keen as a kid at a candy store going to post, jumped like a snooker table at every fence and still finished like a train I'm happy to forgive and go back in some more with some multis antepost for next years QMCC
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Well he just about got to Edward, but nowhere near Jonbon
Cant jump like that and be a top 2m chaser, needs to improve his jumping
 
Question looks to be which 2 novices chases will willie win with ballyburn and impaire et passe if they get there fit
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Question looks to be which 2 novices chases will willie win with ballyburn and impaire et passe if they get there fit
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Willie will definitely be wanting the turners to stay, I'd say it's the best race for both but would expect they'd be split even if the turners stays.
 
Ice said:
Willie will definitely be wanting the turners to stay, I'd say it's the best race for both but would expect they'd be split even if the turners stays.
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They are miles clear of the rest of the horses going novice chasing

Both could win any of the 3 main novice chases I'd say

Just depends how they jump

If one of them jumps accurate and fast the arkle for that one and the turners for the other.
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
They are miles clear of the rest of the horses going novice chasing

Both could win any of the 3 main novice chases I'd say

Just depends how they jump

If one of them jumps accurate and fast the arkle for that one and the turners for the other.
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If only it were that simple FF. IEP needs the Turners to hang around in it's current form . It's the only race for him at the Fez imo. As for Ballyburn, he'd win any of the Novice Chases..............if he goes chasing that is !
 
I don't know why you're all so convinced the turners will go

Can see them making minor tweaks to the festival not drastic changes
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
They are miles clear of the rest of the horses going novice chasing

Both could win any of the 3 main novice chases I'd say

Just depends how they jump

If one of them jumps accurate and fast the arkle for that one and the turners for the other.
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I'm not sure how you can fill deduce that IEP is miles clear of Slade Steel.

Slade Steel was very impressive in the Supreme, a form line that has been backed up while IEP beat a 151 horse by a length 2 races ago and the same horse by 2 lengths this week.

If we were all being truthful we know neither is a genuine superstar based on how far and easily Ballyburn and Stateman has beaten them. But beating langer Dan twice by a combined margin of less than 3 lengths will mean I will need a bit of convincing before I decide the novice chases go through IEP before anyone else.
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
I don't know why you're all so convinced the turners will go

Can see them making minor tweaks to the festival not drastic changes
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Aye, unless someone has word it's going, I think it'd be a mistake to be betting around the assumption that the Turners won't exist as a Grade 1 next season.
 
Lobos said:
Bon Jovi will stay over 2 now after that. El Fabiolo more likely to step up now perhaps, leaving GW for Champion Chase.
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I don’t think connections of both horses will react that strongly to end of season form.
Jonbon can obviously go either distance and imo will be campaigned with Ryanair in mind for the festival but that could change depending on how he’s doing and opportunities that may arise over 2m.It’s also possible he may even be thought of as a King George horse , although personally I don’t see it happening.
El Fab imo will be campaigned with the QM in mind.
I don’t see his jumping being any different over any other distance. He’s shown he’s capable on his day.
 
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