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2025 Stayers Hurdle

Carnage at Taunton said:
May turn out to be, but at least he’s unexposed at the trip and has a bit of the unknown
The race needs those types, all the exposed ones like Crambo seem to be all much of a muchness
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Didn't think you was a fan of the unknown ?
 
Langer Dan is probably the value at 20-1 NRNB.
Ignore all his other runs.
But his form in Spring and on a line through Impaire et Passe he looks the closest to the Fav and could improve further for the stayers course and distance and time of year of course.
 
Quevega said:
Langer Dan is probably the value at 20-1 NRNB.
Ignore all his other runs.
But his form in Spring and on a line through Impaire et Passe he looks the closest to the Fav and could improve further for the stayers course and distance and time of year of course.
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Exchange play, surely massive on that?
 
Quevega said:
Langer Dan is probably the value at 20-1 NRNB.
Ignore all his other runs.
But his form in Spring and on a line through Impaire et Passe he looks the closest to the Fav and could improve further for the stayers course and distance and time of year of course.
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So langer dan can improve but lucky place is crambo 2.0?
Just because it's the 2nd season in a row I've identified the uk improver, doesn't mean we will have the same result.
I'm more confident this year.
Lucky place has a touch of class, and a top trainer.
and posh boy.
Next year I'll not be looking for an improver........
 
Respect all opinions but if ye not with the fav then is it just not a case of trying to keep the thread alive with ifs buts and maybe’s? I watched last years race tonight and the fav made at least 4 errors and still won going away,am sorry but in the words of Willie himself GET STUCK IN!!
 
Liverpoolchamp said:
Respect all opinions but if ye not with the fav then is it just not a case of trying to keep the thread alive with ifs buts and maybe’s? I watched last years race tonight and the fav made at least 4 errors and still won going away,am sorry but in the words of Willie himself GET STUCK IN!!
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No.
it's about looking at him and knowing he is easily beatable.
4 errors?
and you dont think you shoukd take that on?
I'm from the days of proper stayer hurdlers. And we going to get another this year.
​​year.
young enough for a hat trick
 
Ye 4 errors,what would he have won by with 2 errors or even no errors? And again I’m old enough to remember backing Baracouda in this,am I old enough?
 
Liverpoolchamp said:
Ye 4 errors,what would he have won by with 2 errors or even no errors? And again I’m old enough to remember backing Baracouda in this,am I old enough?
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But he made 4.
not 2 not 0
he's vulnerable
And he was never bigger than 11/4,?
 
Just looking at the entries..... how many G1 animals are actually in this at the moment? 1?

Home By The Lee
Hewick (over fences)
Mystical Power (as a novice)
Crambo (Right handed?)
Stellar Story (as a novice and he's gone chasing)
Hewick (as a chaser)


There are others I'm getting bored looking ...... but imagine Teahupoo gets injured.... this becomes an absolute free-for-all :dejection: ... and that's before they supplement something mental




I do think if I was having a bet now, from scratch, I'd chance Home By The Lee at 15/2

I like AaronLad's enthusiasm for Lucky Place, but a future 3 time Stayers Hurdle winner, if you can't win a Coral Cup, is just not happening .... Langer Dan has him held for starters) :devilish:

I did take the related double though the night before I asked if you liked it, hadn't seen you put up at 90/1 but impressive, I'm at at 67/1 :triumphant::culpability:





This race is wank :victorious:

Back to the point I was making when I started haha .... Is Home by The Lee just not the most rock solid? Actual grade 1 hurdler, at a fair price?

If you had to back 1 ..... Teahupoo to win or HBTL E/W?
 
Kevloaf said:
Just looking at the entries..... how many G1 animals are actually in this at the moment? 1?

Home By The Lee
Hewick (over fences)
Mystical Power (as a novice)
Crambo (Right handed?)
Stellar Story (as a novice and he's gone chasing)
Hewick (as a chaser)


There are others I'm getting bored looking ...... but imagine Teahupoo gets injured.... this becomes an absolute free-for-all :dejection: ... and that's before they supplement something mental




I do think if I was having a bet now, from scratch, I'd chance Home By The Lee at 15/2

I like AaronLad's enthusiasm for Lucky Place, but a future 3 time Stayers Hurdle winner, if you can't win a Coral Cup, is just not happening .... Langer Dan has him held for starters) :devilish:

I did take the related double though the night before I asked if you liked it, hadn't seen you put up at 90/1 but impressive, I'm at at 67/1 :triumphant::culpability:





This race is wank :victorious:

Back to the point I was making when I started haha .... Is Home by The Lee just not the most rock solid? Actual grade 1 hurdler, at a fair price?

If you had to back 1 ..... Teahupoo to win or HBTL E/W?
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Kev, he was 5.
it was his 5th run in his life
has he not improved at 2m4f?
yes by nearly a stone
wait until he goes 3m, much more to come.
He beat langer dan on most recent run

My related double was only 59.5/1

I could make a book, I could make profit on this race now, but that ain't me. :indecisiveness:
 
AaronLad said:
Kev, he was 5.
it was his 5th run in his life
has he not improved at 2m4f?
yes by nearly a stone
wait until he goes 3m, much more to come.
He beat langer dan on most recent run

My related double was only 59.5/1

I could make a book, I could make profit on this race now, but that ain't me. :indecisiveness:
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Yeah, it all could happen

I'm pretty sure I got 67/1 :indecisiveness:

and fair enough, not making a book is the more sensible and standard way to go



I see why you are bullish, and hope it pays offf




I'm about 1/1000 that he doesn't win 3x Stayers so it's hardly worth going wild on
 
This race does look ripe for a quality staying chaser who maybe isn’t a great jumper to be suplemented

When would decisions need to be made around supplementing?

Emmett tried with Noble Yeats, could it still happen with Corbetts, or is it too late in the season to revert?

I still think IEP was the pre season best option to put it up to Teahupoo this festival
 
Not that it matters much for this race but with a view to the Pertemps.

Gowel Road +2 (148)
 
AaronLad said:
+4 for monmiral

Seems a bit harsh this
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That's horrendous, you finish 3l behind the winner and get 2lb more ?
That's either an error or a piss take, either way it's ended any hope of a Pertemps repeat...
 
Istabraq said:
That's horrendous, you finish 3l behind the winner and get 2lb more ?
That's either an error or a piss take, either way it's ended any hope of a Pertemps repeat...
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I think they've taken the form literally. 148 for Gowel Road. Monmiral finished nearly 3l back but carrying 4lb extra = a 1lb better performance = 149. Not that I agree with that rating ...
 
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