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2025 Ryanair Chase

Yosser said:
Willie was talking about future gold cups with him last season before he put him in the arkle. Rule nothing out with gaelic. He was on my provisional Gold Cup list. He will get back on there if Willie starts talking about staying chases
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I was more referring to El Fab at 400s…,as he could be stepped up and whilst more likely that would be Ryanair, GC not totally impossible & given his class 400-1 too tempting

I have tho done Gaelic too for GC …,only 100s…but worth having

I think with the top classes there is always money to be made so sometimes with Willie bingo so best to lean in and have fun with it…,,rather than let it drive u mad
 
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Il Etait Temps looks best equipped of Willie's horses for the Ryanair doesn't he ? Ran on from the back after an awful round of jumping in the Arkle. Improved considerably when upped in trip at Aintree comfortably brushing aside the 1st and 2nd in the Turners and then beat Gaelic at Punchestown staying on stoutly.

It may be that he's best away from Cheltenham but, at the prices, he could be the current value in the race.
 
Lobos said:
Il Etait Temps looks best equipped of Willie's horses for the Ryanair doesn't he ? Ran on from the back after an awful round of jumping in the Arkle. Improved considerably when upped in trip at Aintree comfortably brushing aside the 1st and 2nd in the Turners and then beat Gaelic at Punchestown staying on stoutly.

It may be that he's best away from Cheltenham but, at the prices, he could be the current value in the race.
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I think IET will run in the Ryanair regardless of what else Willie puts in there provided he continues his form this season. He will surely be aimed for the race you would think.
 
Lobos said:
Il Etait Temps looks best equipped of Willie's horses for the Ryanair doesn't he ? Ran on from the back after an awful round of jumping in the Arkle. Improved considerably when upped in trip at Aintree comfortably brushing aside the 1st and 2nd in the Turners and then beat Gaelic at Punchestown staying on stoutly.

It may be that he's best away from Cheltenham but, at the prices, he could be the current value in the race.
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Tend to agree tho his Chelt form less good

I’m thinking Willie with have something else ….either from CC list or one of injured stars back maybe

On my crazy switch list I have FTF…..yes, his target is GC, but if he switched for done reason, he’d walk it & so worth having at big price
 
TigerRolllllll said:
Tend to agree tho his Chelt form less good

I’m thinking Willie with have something else ….either from CC list or one of injured stars back maybe

On my crazy switch list I have FTF…..yes, his target is GC, but if he switched for done reason, he’d walk it & so worth having at big price
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What sort of price is F2F Ryanair? Far crazier switches have happened for sure. He'd be my GC winner at this stage but a lot can happen.
 
Lobos said:
What sort of price is F2F Ryanair? Far crazier switches have happened for sure. He'd be my GC winner at this stage but a lot can happen.
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I’m on at 60s…,,still get about 40s
 
TigerRolllllll said:
I like Corbetts for Ryanair….plus good double with FTF

But def good to cover options on these as top horses
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Corbetts would currently be my number 1 pick in the Ryanair although he could easily improve enough to be a GC contender based on his NHC demolition.
JP has so many options with his chasers this coming season and it's very difficult to predict where any of them will end up. He'll run one or two quiet to get them good weights in the GN and/or Cheltenham Handicaps. He'll have one for the Ryanair and maybe a couple for the GC. God knows how he's going to shuffle them all. Get it right though and there's some mahoosive prices out there to play with.
 
Lobos said:
Corbetts would currently be my number 1 pick in the Ryanair although he could easily improve enough to be a GC contender based on his NHC demolition.
JP has so many options with his chasers this coming season and it's very difficult to predict where any of them will end up. He'll run one or two quiet to get them good weights in the GN and/or Cheltenham Handicaps. He'll have one for the Ryanair and maybe a couple for the GC. God knows how he's going to shuffle them all. Get it right though and there's some mahoosive prices out there to play with.
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Mine too …..great price still
 
Another poss switcher at a big price could be Monty’s Star …100-1

I see him much more as one for Gold Cup….,but Henry has been pragmatic before ….and it could easily be soft or worse
 
The beauty of JP though is that if he has 4 or 5 horses good enough for a race he will run 4 or 5 horses. It's probably easier when they are mixed around with other trainers too as they can all aim their dart at the same race in their own way. I do like Corbett's Cross for the Ryanair though. If that race was ran tomorrow, i think he hoses up.
 
A lot of love for Corbetts Cross for the Ryanair but I think he would struggle to go the pace and his jumping won't hold up imo. I'd much rather see him aimed at the Grand National, even if he had top weight. The GN fences aren't a test these days(being very polite) and he could easily hunt at the back before making a move late on the second circuit.
 
YoungHustler said:
A lot of love for Corbetts Cross for the Ryanair but I think he would struggle to go the pace and his jumping won't hold up imo. I'd much rather see him aimed at the Grand National, even if he had top weight. The GN fences aren't a test these days(being very polite) and he could easily hunt at the back before making a move late on the second circuit.
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Don’t like novices for this unless they are a super start (vautour). Don’t think this lad jumps well enough to win a Ryanair

I’d be against him
 
Derek O'Connor re Corbett's Cross....

"I can see him dropping back in trip and contesting something over 2m4f up to 3m. I can't see him being at his best over that extended trip again, it was just pure class on the day got him through."
 
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Lobos said:
Derek O'Connor re Corbett's Cross....

"I can see him dropping back in trip and contesting something over 2m4f up to 3m. I can't see him being at his best over that extended trip again, it was just pure class on the day got him through."
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Odd comment that, makes little sense.
 
Lobos said:
Corbetts would currently be my number 1 pick in the Ryanair although he could easily improve enough to be a GC contender based on his NHC demolition.
JP has so many options with his chasers this coming season and it's very difficult to predict where any of them will end up. He'll run one or two quiet to get them good weights in the GN and/or Cheltenham Handicaps. He'll have one for the Ryanair and maybe a couple for the GC. God knows how he's going to shuffle them all. Get it right though and there's some mahoosive prices out there to play with.
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took the JP chasers list from RoadToCheltenham Twitter. Roughly how they seam to split at the minute with a few quotes, age next march

Champ Chase
(170) Jonbon - 9yo - Henderson - 2m route mapped out
(161) Gentleman De Mee - 9yo - Mullins - same again
(157) Dinoblue - 8yo - Mullins - maybe goes here

Ryanair
(166) Corbetts Cross - 8yo - E.Mullins - DOK allulled to 2m4f/3m?

Gold Cup
(169) I Am Maximus - 9yo - Mullins
“To win an IN and an EN is impressive. I think he could be a Gold Cup horse, but we don’t know how good he could be because he doesn’t do it at home. He’s quirky, but he has huge ability and until others get the better of him, we won’t know how good he is​“

(162) Fact To File - 8yo - Mullins
”Gold Cup performance….. You know the plan (for next season), he could start off in the JD, then run at xmas , then the DRF and back here. That’s the bones of the plan, but he has to stay right and JP might have other ideas, so I’ll have to have a chat with him about that”

(155) Spillane's Tower​ - 7yo - Mangan
”I couldn’t see why he wouldn’t stay three miles but that will be for next year​“ small trainer surely would love a GC but could flex

(157) Inothewayurthinkin - 7yo - Cromwell
“3M G1 staying chases next season” GC
”Into big boys company, 3M next year.. winter horse possible Irish National either” DOC - his main target may not be chelt?

Mares Chase
(153) Limerick Lace - 8yo - Mullins

Miss Chelt. / Not considered
(152) Iroko - 7yo - Grenhall confirmed the GN is JP plan
(159) Capodanno - 9yo - Mullins - non player really
(162) Saint Roi - 10yo - Mullins - non player really
(147) Indiana Dream - 7yo - Mullins - injury prone?
(149) Meetingofthewaters - 8yo - Emmet - GN again??
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can ignore the 2 milers, mares and those missing chelt.

Lots of moving parts but I can see Mangan and Crowell going down the big handicap / 3m route with their 7yo’s, then I am Maximus probably has a tilt at the gold cup to really test his limit?
Corbetts Cross has blown his mark and the Ryanair looks the obvious pick although it wouldn’t be the wildest idea to see Fact To File come back to that trip if there was a vacancy.. especially if GDC was firing on all cylinders

might just have a saver on F2F (Ryanair), GDC (GC) and CC (Ryanair), F2F (GC)
 
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Quevega said:
Odd comment that, makes little sense.
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Does it ? He rode him in the NHC so clearly he felt that he was at the end of his stamina levels maybe? JP obviously just loves the bloke and I'm sure would respect what he says ?
 
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