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2025 Champion Chase

Yosser said:
I think Jonbon is a very good horse. The problem i have is that i don't think he will reach his potential over 2 miles. He looks awkward trying to jump fences at pace. Longer trip, slower tempo and i think he becomes a better horse.
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I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment :frown-new:
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment :frown-new:
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Jonbon going to Ascot for the Clarence House. WM does send his over for that race, would not be surprised to see Energumene.
 
Yosser said:
I think Jonbon is a very good horse. The problem i have is that i don't think he will reach his potential over 2 miles. He looks awkward trying to jump fences at pace. Longer trip, slower tempo and i think he becomes a better horse.
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Yep, his record over 2m is very impressive, but I think he would be even better over further, and I would like to see him try the King George.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment :frown-new:
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Based on what we've seen with our own eyes this season then I think Quilixios could test him in the Tingle Creek. 33/1 for the Champion Chase seems generous. Especially when you consider Marine National is 14/1 who he battered 10 days ago at Naas over 2m. Just saying !
 
I think there’s a danger of people over egging Quillixios’ win last weekend, he was nothing short of horrible in last seasons Arkle and as a chaser he looks well off G1 level to me, even UK G1 without the Irish….
 
The WTAF price on Quillixios will be huge......150/1 or more?
 
Lobos said:
The WTAF price on Quillixios will be huge......150/1 or more?
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Haha really?! Remember the price takes into account if he wins. If he’s 33/1 for the festival you’ll get 40/1.
 
Dinoblue...
​​​​​​The path I am looking at is the Hilly Way Chase at Cork, followed by the Opera Hat Chase at Naas. We were looking at her as a Champion Chase mare this season, but we’ll keep all options open.
 
Lobos said:
Dinoblue...
​​​​​​The path I am looking at is the Hilly Way Chase at Cork, followed by the Opera Hat Chase at Naas. We were looking at her as a Champion Chase mare this season, but we’ll keep all options open.
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Think Kev will be pleased to read this !:applouse:
 
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Lobos said:
Dinoblue...
​​​​​​The path I am looking at is the Hilly Way Chase at Cork, followed by the Opera Hat Chase at Naas. We were looking at her as a Champion Chase mare this season, but we’ll keep all options open.
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Still 33/1 with Denise

Bit of value ?
 
Wayward Lad said:
Still 33/1 with Denise

Bit of value ?
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I'n struggling to believe she goes to the Queen Mother ahead of Energumene, Gaelic Warrior and El Fabiolo, and I can't see Mullins sending 3 to the race.
That said he has namechecked the Mares Chase for a couple of other horses so who knows, a case of having too much talent in the yard....
 
Istabraq said:
I'n struggling to believe she goes to the Queen Mother ahead of Energumene, Gaelic Warrior and El Fabiolo, and I can't see Mullins sending 3 to the race.
That said he has namechecked the Mares Chase for a couple of other horses so who knows, a case of having too much talent in the yard....
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JP will tell him anyway, so a lot will depend on Jonbon IMO

I say a lot, probably just a little bit as obviously different jockeys - Walsh and Posh Boy
 
Istabraq said:
I'n struggling to believe she goes to the Queen Mother ahead of Energumene, Gaelic Warrior and El Fabiolo, and I can't see Mullins sending 3 to the race.
That said he has namechecked the Mares Chase for a couple of other horses so who knows, a case of having too much talent in the yard....
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JP has 4/5 others doesn't he that are right up there in the betting for the Mares Chase. He doesn't need that many for a nothing race.

I bet he was gutted he didn't send her to the CC this season as she would have bolted up. Hindsight eh ??
 
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Dinoblue ran a cracker in the mares chase last season on that testing ground with her stamina doubts. Think she wins that this time if less testing.
 
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