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2024 Novice Chasers

Will be interesting to see if Willie declares Blood Destiny for the Grade 3 over 2m3f on Sunday. That race has been won by lots of decent horse (impervious, Bob Olinger, Envoi Allen) who've gone on to run well over 2m4f at Cheltenham. If BD takes up that engagement it's probably less likely we see him at the DRF but not impossible as he'd have nearly 3 weeks to recover. If BD wins that Grade 3 well I think 12/1 NRMB for the Turners could look very generous indeed (16's available if you have a really strong view). A few other views reinforce the Turners being the target. Aside from persisting at intermediate trips (if declared) I don't think trainers are going to be queuing up to take on MN in the Arkle. Regardless of whether or not you think FV is a busted flush, I think they will be stubborn and persist with 2m because GW looks their Turners horse and I cant see Willie sending two big stable stars to the same race. I actually think GW is worth taking on. It's impossible to escape the fact that he's clearly better right handed and he's blotted his copybook twice now, both at Cheltenham. Fair to level the same accusation at BD who blew out in the Triumph but he looks a different animal over fences. When you access the horses that sit between BD and GW in the Turner's market you're dealing with 8 horses. 3 of them are OFTS, IEF is favouring a French campaign, I have it on good authority CC goes NHC and FTF has been all the rage for the BANC. That leaves FV and Found A Fifty. If, like me, you believe Willie will persist with 2m with FV then you're talking about one decent rival in FAF standing in Blood Destiny's way. There is no way a double figure price will hold if events transpire as I think they will so 12/1 NRMB looks very solid and value IMO
 
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charlie said:
Will be interesting to see if Willie declares Blood Destiny for the Grade 3 over 2m3f on Sunday. That race has been won by lots of decent horse (impervious, Bob Olinger, Envoi Allen) who've gone on to run well over 2m4f at Cheltenham. If BD takes up that engagement it's probably less likely we see him at the DRF but not impossible as he'd have nearly 3 weeks to recover. If BD wins that Grade 3 well I think 12/1 NRMB for the Turners could look very generous indeed (16's available if you have a really strong view). A few other views reinforce the Turners being the target. Aside from persisting at intermediate trips (if declared) I don't think trainers are going to be queuing up to take on MN in the Arkle. Regardless of whether or not you think FV is a busted flush, I think they will be stubborn and persist with 2m because GW looks their Turners horse and I cant see Willie sending two big stable stars to the same race. I actually think GW is worth taking on. It's impossible to escape the fact that he's clearly better right handed and he's blotted his copybook twice now, both at Cheltenham. Fair to level the same accusation at BD who blew out in the Triumph but he looks a different animal over fences. When you access the horses that sit between BD and GW in the Turner's market you're dealing with 8 horses. 3 of them are OFTS, IEF is favouring a French campaign, I have it on good authority CC goes NHC and FTF has been all the rage for the BANC. That leaves FV and Found A Fifty. If, like me, you believe Willie will persist with 2m with FV then you're talking about one decent rival in FAF standing in Blood Destiny's way. There is no way a double figure price will hold if events transpire as I think they will so 12/1 NRMB looks very solid and value IMO
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Yeah, like him a lot and for me the best fencing I’ve seen from a nov chaser at 2-2m4 this season.
Ive backed him nrnb for both Arkle and Turners.
Think he will be shorter for whichever race he turns up in at Cheltenham.
 
Carnage at Taunton said:
Yeah, like him a lot and for me the best fencing I’ve seen from a nov chaser at 2-2m4 this season.
Ive backed him nrnb for both Arkle and Turners.
Think he will be shorter for whichever race he turns up in at Cheltenham.
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He's been declared Sunday over 2m3f and opened 4/9. I like that move from Willie. My worry was he'd step back in trip with a sight on the Arkle but this declaration makes that more unlikely. Think the market will cotton on soon enough and he'll be a single figure NRMB price
 
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He's been declared Sunday over 2m3f and opened 4/9. I like that move from Willie. My worry was he'd step back in trip with a sight on the Arkle but this declaration makes that more unlikely. Think the market will cotton on soon enough and he'll be a single figure NRMB price
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He's got to absolutely bolt in on the race on Sunday getting all that weight, from what should be, realistically, his only rival.
 
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He's got to absolutely bolt in on the race on Sunday getting all that weight, from what should be, realistically, his only rival.
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He will :boxing:. Imagine is 2/2 and run to a decent enough level so when he pisses in vs him then we can get excited about having a crack at bigger fish off levels in march
 
charlie said:
He's been declared Sunday over 2m3f and opened 4/9. I like that move from Willie. My worry was he'd step back in trip with a sight on the Arkle but this declaration makes that more unlikely. Think the market will cotton on soon enough and he'll be a single figure NRMB price
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Yeah see that for Sunday.
He must be winning that i would think.
He could still run in either I reckon , and guess it could well depend on Mr P performance today and FV next time?
Hes certainly been more impressive jumping wise than both of those thus far.
 
charlie said:
He will :boxing:. Imagine is 2/2 and run to a decent enough level so when he pisses in vs him then we can get excited about having a crack at bigger fish off levels in march
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Imagine beat a 140's horse by half a length in a rubbish Grade 2. I like Imagine, but he's not top table material.

Blood Destiny will also be getting zero lbs from anything at the festival, and taking into account his run last season in the Triumph, I struggle to get too excited about him (I was all over him for the Triumph, so I do like him), however, I do agree that his price will be gone when he pisses in on Sunday :encouragement:
 
Mister Policeman is shite then, at least we can move on now. FV Arkle then.
 
MP won’t be catching any burglars in the nr future. Awful
 
County hurdle it is :highly_amused:
 
….PP/BFSB push Mr P out to 50-1 Ark.
 
Very slow over 2miles at his fences, they might persist up in trip but he might end up being a Grade 2/3 hurdler and pick up those races that Bachasson and Cash Back do.
 
That was desperate. Back over Hurdles for him.
 
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