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2023 Mares Novice Hurdle

AaronLad said:
Why would she be too slow?
she won a g3 over 2miles last April then ran in 5 g1's

look at echoes in rain. Not at her level on the flat but wins over 2 miles over hurdles.

If she takes to hurdles she could end up in next seasons champion hurdle
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Princess zoe doesn't have a turn of foot like echoes in rain

Her best flat runs are 2m4f on bottomless ground

Generally those horse need a trip over hurdles unless they have a turn of pace. Which princess zoe hasn't shown.
 
Dead heat for Princess Zoe on debut. Ploughed through the last completely knocking it over. A few sketchy jumps going around too.

Dead heat against an improver in Ladybank who was beaten along way on her debut
 
I have no idea what to make of that. Was ridden like she was a good thing, then clattered the last and found little. One you'd think of including in a book, but I think this years crop are very good.

Out of interest, anyone know how that affects the Win Today bets?
 
Exar Essay said:
I have no idea what to make of that. Was ridden like she was a good thing, then clattered the last and found little. One you'd think of including in a book, but I think this years crop are very good.

Out of interest, anyone know how that affects the Win Today bets?
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Should be usual - half win half loss, so bet continues at half stakes.
 
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They should run her in the bartlett

Shed have no chance over 2m1f imo
 
Tony Mullins reasonably happy with the run. Said she'll go straight to Cheltenham and himself and Danny were in agreement after to stick to Mares Nov Hurdle route
 
Would have thought they would have had her spot on for that today too. Wonder if they might just draw stumps.
 
PresentingPercy said:
Tony Mullins reasonably happy with the run. Said she'll go straight to Cheltenham and himself and Danny were in agreement after to stick to Mares Nov Hurdle route
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Interesting that they've come to that conclusion. I thought she was too slow for it before and I thought the same after. They've obviously seen something different!

Must be a bit to work on if they were happy with it I guess.
 
Benjy23 said:
Interesting that they've come to that conclusion. I thought she was too slow for it before and I thought the same after. They've obviously seen something different!

Must be a bit to work on if they were happy with it I guess.
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Think the purpose for today was to see if she can jump, and barring the last, she did the job well overall. Think theres improvement in her, Tony eluded to her being a little gassy as she hadn't run for a while, probably why she emptied a little after the last. Ideally they would have liked to have another run before Chelt but too late in the calendar to do so now.
 
She's only won once from five attempts after a break of over two months before today, so not a bad first try. Pink in the Park 20 lengths back gives a favourable line to Harmonya Maker. I'd still prefer her in the AB though.
 
Black Dog said:
She's only won once from five attempts after a break of over two months before today, so not a bad first try. Pink in the Park 20 lengths back gives a favourable line to Harmonya Maker. I'd still prefer her in the AB though.
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Pink In The Park has never wanted 2m4f in my view. Not sure why she was entered over such a trip. I'd be wary of using it as an exact form line for that reason.
 
Exar Essay said:
Pink In The Park has never wanted 2m4f in my view. Not sure why she was entered over such a trip. I'd be wary of using it as an exact form line for that reason.
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Think Harmonya gave her weight as well
 
Exar Essay said:
Pink In The Park has never wanted 2m4f in my view. Not sure why she was entered over such a trip. I'd be wary of using it as an exact form line for that reason.
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Yeah she did look like a non stayer the last twice now, but taking PZ on from the start might not have been the best tactic. But Paul must have thought differently.
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
AaronLad said:
She has no chance in either race realistically imo friend
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Would not be so sure of that. She has normally tended to need her first run back after a break and would have been far from her peak yesterday. And considering it was her first start over hurdles, it was not a bad performance by any means. She will improve a ton from that imo and at 33s with Bet365 at present, she is without doubt the best value in the race.
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