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2023 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

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TO CLOSE BY NOON ON JANUARY 24th with supplementary entries on March 11th
CHELTENHAM Friday, March 17th THE ALBERT BARTLETT NOVICES’ HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1)(Grade 1) (Registered as The SPA NOVICES’ HURDLE RACE) (GBB RACE) TOTAL RACE VALUE ?135,000 Distributed in accordance with the Stakes and Prize Money Code
?75,964 to the winning horse
The second to receive ?28,620
the third ?14,323
the fourth ?7,155
the fifth ?3,591
the sixth ?1,795
the seventh ?891
the eighth ?459
for novice fve yrs old and upwards about THREE MILES (2m 7f 213yds)
Enter by noon, January 24th and pay ?168 stake Scratch by noon, February 14th or pay ?339 Confrm by noon, March 11th and pay ?168 Supplementary Entry by noon, March 11th and pay ?4,884 stake Declare by 10.00 a.m. March 15th
Weights: .................11st 7lb
Mares allowed ........ 7lb
 
….Elliott indicating he’ll send Favori & Three Card Brag here. Absolute Notions is ‘well handicapped’.
 
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….Elliott indicating he’ll send Favori & Three Card Brag here. Absolute Notions is ‘well handicapped’.

AN would need another run before the Fez. On a good mark if they can fiddle another run.
 
….Elliott indicating he’ll send Favori & Three Card Brag here. Absolute Notions is ‘well handicapped’.

Makes you wonder what that mark fishing exercise was about. Particularly when he was seemingly so well treated by the British Capper.
 
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AN would need another run before the Fez. On a good mark if they can fiddle another run.

Would he definitely need another run as he is no longer a novice or does the novice status only apply at the beginning of the season? Genuinely confused regarding this:


"​BHA - From Oct 1st '22 a novice horse shall only be qualified to run in a Class 1 or Class 2 Handicap Hurdle Race if it has run a minimum of four times in Hurdle races in Great Britain, Ireland or France. For the Boodles and the h'cap chases it remains three runs."​
 
Would he definitely need another run as he is no longer a novice or does the novice status only apply at the beginning of the season? Genuinely confused regarding this:


"​BHA - From Oct 1st '22 a novice horse shall only be qualified to run in a Class 1 or Class 2 Handicap Hurdle Race if it has run a minimum of four times in Hurdle races in Great Britain, Ireland or France. For the Boodles and the h'cap chases it remains three runs."​

He's no longer a maiden, still a novice.

If you haven't won a race at the start of the season, you're considered a novice for the entire season.
 
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Clonmel entries out, Hiddenvalley Lake vs Corbetts Cross possibly.

Hoping for a solid showing from HL.
 
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Clonmel entries out, Hiddenvalley Lake vs Corbetts Cross possibly.

Hoping for a solid showing from HL.


….race features in Saxon’s Calendar, has produced a few prominent AB finishers. In 2019 Allaho beat Minella Indo before they reversed placings in AB.
 
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….race features in Saxon’s Calendar, has produced a few prominent AB finishers. In 2019 Allaho beat Minella Indo before they reversed placings in AB.

Aye think it’s common knowledge nowadays HdB likes to target it for his staying hurdlers, won 3 of the last 6 who all went onto the Albert Bartlett with varied results of course.

Minella Indo won both, Monalee 2nd at the festival and Shantreusse finishing down the field.
 
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Gordon says if Albert was tomorrow then American Mike would be going for it.

As per Irish Field.

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Gordon says if Albert was tomorrow then American Mike would be going for it.

As per Irish Field.

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Thanks Lobos. Managed to cancel my lay just in time. Gordon doing a Ginto again! Confirmed Ballymore earlier in the week.

Interesting article that for others too. Irish Point Ballymore or nowhere by the sounds.
 
Thanks Lobos. Managed to cancel my lay just in time. Gordon doing a Ginto again! Confirmed Ballymore earlier in the week.

Interesting article that for others too. Irish Point Ballymore or nowhere by the sounds.

Yep. I'd put a line through my Albert bet so happy with that. Think it's the right call in view of his troubles this season. Three Card Brag also Albert. Favori also possible but ground dependant maybe?
 
Thanks Lobos. Managed to cancel my lay just in time. Gordon doing a Ginto again! Confirmed Ballymore earlier in the week.

Interesting article that for others too. Irish Point Ballymore or nowhere by the sounds.

Disappointed to read that about Irish point, I think he has mentioned in the past he might skip the fez with him. Although surely off a nice mark Gordy could get him into a handicap with a great chance!
 
Disappointed to read that about Irish point, I think he has mentioned in the past he might skip the fez with him. Although surely off a nice mark Gordy could get him into a handicap with a great chance!

The problem is that his mark will be quite high. He's finished 2nd in two grade 1s and they'll ignore his last run. Likely to be high 140s in the UK.
 
The problem is that his mark will be quite high. He's finished 2nd in two grade 1s and they'll ignore his last run. Likely to be high 140s in the UK.

Completely agree. Been running on merit and he’ll be falling into a handicap rather than plotted.
 
Should we be worried about American Mike being sent to the MP?

A staying on 3rd tomorrow would lead to no reason to him getting a big rating, and thought it was interesting the "win today and" markets has the Martin Pipe shorter than the Ballymore or AB
 
Should we be worried about American Mike being sent to the MP?

A staying on 3rd tomorrow would lead to no reason to him getting a big rating, and thought it was interesting the "win today and" markets has the Martin Pipe shorter than the Ballymore or AB

He's only had 2 runs over hurdles (third run tomorrow) so be unlikely to get another run into him before Cheltenham.
 
He's only had 2 runs over hurdles (third run tomorrow) so be unlikely to get another run into him before Cheltenham.

Ahhh
Racing Post app keeping NR races in their race history has fooled me.

Incredibly annoying feature of the latest upgrade
 
Should we be worried about American Mike being sent to the MP?

A staying on 3rd tomorrow would lead to no reason to him getting a big rating, and thought it was interesting the "win today and" markets has the Martin Pipe shorter than the Ballymore or AB

None.

If he goes for the MP it wasn't "the plan" so no interest for me