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2022 Triumph Hurdle

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Hard to knock that performance from In This World, first time up over hurdles. Did it nicely enough.
 
I liked that from In this world. Took the last and went off nicely. Good performance.
 
Agreed, he looked to do it nicely and kept on the heels of the leaders after the bump 3 out was it? Made smooth headway and Harry never really had to get into him. Will want to see his jumping improve but that was perfectly satisfactory first time out. I was inclined to hold off backing him a few days ago but talked myself into it. 16's now is fair after that.
 
That was really nice I thought. He and Fil Dor are obviously smart, and it's nice to have the second line on it now.

Skelton likes to send his best juvenile to the race, and the best of the UK juveniles both started out in this race the last two years.

Presumably In The World will go to the juvenile at Cheltenham's December meeting now, and will possibly get a course experience edge on Fil Dor, unless Gordon does likewise.
 
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Wake and Labaik said:
Agreed, he looked to do it nicely and kept on the heels of the leaders after the bump 3 out was it? Made smooth headway and Harry never really had to get into him. Will want to see his jumping improve but that was perfectly satisfactory first time out. I was inclined to hold off backing him a few days ago but talked myself into it. 16's now is fair after that.
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…Hills now 12-1 from 16s. Sky look the biggest at 14-1.
 
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Andy Holding very keen on Champion Green for this. Strong flat form in maidens, similar profile to Sir Erec for connections. Joseph mentioned he’s going hurdling so price could fall once entered.

apologies if you’re already all over this
 
For anyone that's feeling ambitious, Virginbet still have a horse called "This World" listed in their Triumph Hurdle market at 25-1.

It's not quite "In This World" and a bet now would make it stand out that its been backed after the race so it may not help retain your account! :highly_amused:
 
TiggerRoll said:
Andy Holding very keen on Champion Green for this. Strong flat form in maidens, similar profile to Sir Erec for connections. Joseph mentioned he’s going hurdling so price could fall once entered.

apologies if you’re already all over this
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What's similar ?
That Joseph trains ?
 
Sir erec was a 109 rated flat horse who only got beat 2 lengths by strad at ascot on champions day

champion Green about 20lbs worse than him on the flat
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Sir erec was a 109 rated flat horse who only got beat 2 lengths by strad at ascot on champions day

champion Green about 20lbs worse than him on the flat
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That was my immediate thought.

I think it's the JP Mcmanus ex flat horses with Joseph link he's relating to.
Like Gardens of Babylon, Ivanovich Gorbatov & sir erec. Probably some others that weren't so good
 
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Quevega said:
What's similar ?
That Joseph trains ?
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Joseph trains, JP owns, strong form on flat taking to hurdling. Appreciate that there’s probably loads with that profile but wanted to share the view for you to consider
 
TiggerRoll said:
Joseph trains, JP owns, strong form on flat taking to hurdling. Appreciate that there’s probably loads with that profile but wanted to share the view for you to consider
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:encouragement: Yep.
It was the just mentioning Sir Erec bit that did it, as his flat form was obviously very different.
 
Gone off Joseph trained horses completely to be fair, although I have backed one of his (it's a faint hope)
 
Quevega said:
Gone off Joseph trained horses completely to be fair, although I have backed one of his (it's a faint hope)
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Seems to have regressed massively since 2 or 3 years ago for whatever reason, big shame
 
Quevega said:
:encouragement: Yep.
It was the just mentioning Sir Erec bit that did it, as his flat form was obviously very different.
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It’s not the same level but the Curragh maiden was close up behind four 100+ horses, shaping like he needed a trip more than the others.
 
Quevega said:
That was my immediate thought.

I think it's the JP Mcmanus ex flat horses with Joseph link he's relating to.
Like Gardens of Babylon, Ivanovich Gorbatov & sir erec. Probably some others that weren't so good
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Indeed it is never a given for the flat rating to translate over jumps. The one that springs to mind for me is Housesofparliament who was third in the Leger and finished his flat career rated 113. He was bang average as a juvenile hurdler and I've just checked that he signed off in 2018 winning a handicap hurdle over 3m off a lowly 130.
 
ToniC said:
Seems to have regressed massively since 2 or 3 years ago for whatever reason, big shame
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Less interested in the game, probably meaning owners aren't arsed sending him decent ammo. Doesn't make sense for an owner to send a horse to him really.
 
Lobos said:
AlL these entries are just too much for me........I need a lie down!
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We get this every year.
Hardly any will be declared.
Not sure why Gordon enters so many to be fair.
In one of the bumpers he's entered 5.
He's definitely picking up prize money whilst Willie is still sleeping but some of the entries like American Mike and Fil Dor seem superfluous.
 
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