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2022 Novice Hurdle Division

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What do we all think of Eileendover?

She made a big splash on debut. Her first three bumpers were eye-catchingly impressive, not least beating Grangee by 8 lengths. She then slightly disappointed in fourth in the Aintree Mares Bumper, when losing her race because she was far too fresh.

Connections thought her exceptional, and that a flat campaign would take her to the top, and after it hasn't worked out the way they thought it would, presumably we'll see her over hurdles this season, with the possibility of a Mares Novice Hurdle target at the Festival.

I think I'm right in saying that her RPR of 125 was the highest for any Mare last season, which is ahead of Elle Est Belle and Grangee, so he has the right basic credentials.

On the face of it her ability would make her of real interest for March where she is 16/1 for the Mares Novice Hurdle. The trouble is I just can't quite warm to her. It's nothing specific either. She clearly has lots of ability, and should be in the mix with the best of the novice mares next season. Yes, perhaps there's a suspicion that she may want a flat track, and she isn't with a fashinable trainer, but neither of those things would normally put me off. She hasn't had the chance to prove herself at a stiffer course yet, and I don't mind Pam Sly as a trainer. She very capable of readying a good one.

I think perhaps I just need to hear the case 'for' from someone who thinks she's interesting for next season. She probably should be in my Mares Novice Hurdle book for Cheltenham, but I want cashout and 365 are four points shorter at 12/1 which is just too short. Therefore I need pursuading that I should take 16/1 from PP or Sportsbook. In fact she'll be 18/1 with a boost with Sportsbook. 18/1 at 50% better than 365 would perhaps be worth the risk if someone can make a coherant case for her, and get me past the mental block I seem to have with her?

I will be keeping a close eye on 'Me too Please' who beat both Elle est Belle and Eileendover ( rec'd 6lb from the winner) at Aintree. Me too please then went on to finish a decent 3rd to Saldier who was considered a Champion Hurdle horse before breaking his nose in a nasty fall. Saldier has since gone on to win a competitive handicap at the Galway festival and has earned an official rating of 162 on the back of it. If Arthur Moore decides to send her novice hurdling I will be adding her to my antepost book.
 
….hard to know what to make of that given the opposition. Pulled hard, didn’t jump particularly well but won going away at the end.

Yeah beat trees and hardly slick but very early days and good to see him non the worse for lto, crystal clear he will be better amongst better horses with a proper pace,. It will be interesting to see how he is campaigned as even if beat by better novices come the winter a hcap hurdle could surface at some stage but we shall see.
 
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I will be keeping a close eye on 'Me too Please' who beat both Elle est Belle and Eileendover ( rec'd 6lb from the winner) at Aintree. Me too please then went on to finish a decent 3rd to Saldier who was considered a Champion Hurdle horse before breaking his nose in a nasty fall. Saldier has since gone on to win a competitive handicap at the Galway festival and has earned an official rating of 162 on the back of it. If Arthur Moore decides to send her novice hurdling I will be adding her to my antepost book.

Yes she's one I already have in my book FOTT. 14/1 with cashout is a fair price for the Aintree Bumper winner. As you say the risk is they put her away for the winter and have a crack at a flat campaign. On the plus side she hasn't been seen for a couple of months, so it's more likely she's on her holidays before a hurdle campaign.
 
Hi all, new forum member here and glad to meet you all. Just thought I'd make my first post by putting forward an interesting horse that may not have been mentioned on here as of yet,

Saint Felicien

Out of Saint Des Saints. Was bought by Robcour in April and is going to Gordon Elliott. I am just not sure if this will still be a novice hurdler when the jumps season comes around as it won its only run in France very convincingly in March as a Juvenile. The replay can be found on ATR here
 
Hi Zachx02 , it's currently 12/1 on Sky bet's To Win Any Race at Cheltenham market if you want have something on now while race targets are unclear:encouragement:
 
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Hi all, new forum member here and glad to meet you all. Just thought I'd make my first post by putting forward an interesting horse that may not have been mentioned on here as of yet,

Saint Felicien

Out of Saint Des Saints. Was bought by Robcour in April and is going to Gordon Elliott.

Welcome.
I haven’t stayed close to the news wire in recent weeks but I assumed Robcour were sending their mew recruits to HDB, I think they have one or two with Jessie and Mouse but hadn’t realised the link with Gordon was still intact…
 
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Welcome.
I haven’t stayed close to the news wire in recent weeks but I assumed Robcour were sending their mew recruits to HDB, I think they have one or two with Jessie and Mouse but hadn’t realised the link with Gordon was still intact…

I was surprised when I saw he didn't go to HdB and with what has gone on Cullentra would have been one of the last places I would have expected him to go, unless the website has gotten it wrong which I doubt.
 
Welcome.
I haven’t stayed close to the news wire in recent weeks but I assumed Robcour were sending their mew recruits to HDB, I think they have one or two with Jessie and Mouse but hadn’t realised the link with Gordon was still intact…

I think they have Gerri Colombe with Gordon too, still showing that on RP and I don't recall any musings about moving their horses out when the British owners were.

GC obviously a bit further along in his education than Saint Felicien.
 
Welcome Zach, and thanks for the heads-up on Saint Felicien.

It’s the time of the year where it pays to get as much information about where the French imports and the point to pointers have gone.
 
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5yo Mare Melk Abbey is of real interest to me . Sent to HDB after winning easy on her 2nd PTP Appearance and out of same family as Honeysuckle. Long term chasing prospect but maybe a Mares Novice Hurdle type come March ? Can't see her priced up anywhere but will have a pop when she is. One to stick in the notebook.

Edit..... should have said out of same family as Bob Ollinger. Got Honeysuckle in the brain.......easy mistake for me to make !:redface-new:

Also same family as Shishkin and Don Cossack. Blue blood !!
 
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5yo Mare Melk Abbey is of real interest to me . Sent to HDB after winning easy on her 2nd PTP Appearance and out of same family as Honeysuckle. Long term chasing prospect but maybe a Mares Novice Hurdle type come March ? Can't see her priced up anywhere but will have a pop when she is. One to stick in the notebook.

Edit..... should have said out of same family as Bob Ollinger. Got Honeysuckle in the brain.......easy mistake for me to make !:redface-new:

Also same family as Shishkin and Don Cossack. Blue blood !!

Are you sure? I can't see those names on the pedigree.

https://www.tattersalls.ie/search-re...bbey+%28IRE%29

Doesn't mean she no good, of course. At that price they've obviously seen beyond the bare form.
 
Have requested a price twar with skybet, see what they say, they weren't willing to price up anything yesterday for 2022/2023 doubles so not holding out much hope to be honest
 
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Have requested a price twar with skybet, see what they say, they weren't willing to price up anything yesterday for 2022/2023 doubles so not holding out much hope to be honest

Ask William hill they generally don’t refuse a price request
 
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