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2017 Stayers Hurdle

Matched at 20. Not looking good.....
 
It could through everything up in the air.
 
could jezki really do it? Got a niggling feeling in the back of my mind he might romp home on his comeback run and his price therefore plummets before he does it on the big stage again in March... or is it just wishful thinking :confused:
 
My uncle's had £50 e/w on him, he seems confident but i'm not too sure.
 
what do we think guys? Ive just looked back and i have around 25% (in monetary terms) of all my ante post bets involving unwimh from singles to 4 folds... the majority at 5/1.... feels like faugheen last year all over again. Theres nearly 200 quid at 4/1 which can be laid... if it was concrete he was out would that not have been hoovered up by now?
 
Seems to have settled a bit now - with 4.7 the back price on bf. considering most books were 5/2 (the odd bit off 11/4) and knowing that betfair are always a little higher its not too out of expectations, but alarming non the less. For those that know how bots work, is it possible a bot went wild and laid everything upto 20s?
 
More likely a fat chump in joggers wanted to cause a storm in a tea cup?

Or the bot thing I guess :confused::D
 
Kevloaf said:
More likely a fat chump in joggers wanted to cause a storm in a tea cup?

Or the bot thing I guess :confused::D
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Twitter folk suggesting it could be people attempting to get bookies to inflate their prices, especially those that are nrnb... Seems a bit drastic to me and not heard of it before.. Bit provided all is well with the horse the fat chumps can keep up their mind games haha
 
I think we've discussed this on here in the past. The exchanges make it so easy for someone to cause a scare, and this is how it happens:

A few hundred quid is all that is needed to push a horse out a few points on the exchanges. Social media helps spread the word that the horse is uneasy in the market and then it just snowballs as people move to reduce their liability. Once the horse has drifted sufficiently, the person who started the drift steps in and starts taking the bigger prices. The lack of liquidity in ante post markets make this very easy to do.
 
I'd be slow to back now - these drifts are often indicative of something being amiss - I'm pretty sure there was one on barters hill last year - and we found out later there had been a scare
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I think we've discussed this on here in the past. The exchanges make it so easy for someone to cause a scare, and this is how it happens:

A few hundred quid is all that is needed to push a horse out a few points on the exchanges. Social media helps spread the word that the horse is uneasy in the market and then it just snowballs as people move to reduce their liability. Once the horse has drifted sufficiently, the person who started the drift steps in and starts taking the bigger prices. The lack of liquidity in ante post markets make this very easy to do.
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Spot in there FM.
There are people who do this for a living and, it might not surprise you, some of this starts from inside yards...
 
Takes very little money to cause some of these drifts.

Create some fake news - post it on twitter - all kinds of things can happen.:(
 
mayo said:
I'd be slow to back now - these drifts are often indicative of something being amiss - I'm pretty sure there was one on barters hill last year - and we found out later there had been a scare
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Looks back to normal now... Looking like someone playing games or a bot gone mad. If it was genuine then the money to lay at 5s would surely be hoovered up. Someone has tweeted Harry Frys racing team so hopefully they respond tomorrow
 
Istabraq said:
Spot in there FM.
There are people who do this for a living and, it might not surprise you, some of this starts from inside yards...
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Very difficult to stop. I remember this happening every other day as we approached the festival around 8-10 years ago. Someone must have made a fortune.
 
It'll happen every day for the next 8 weeks too FM.
As I said, when it comes from inside stables and word spreads around the local pubs/social scene it carries credibility.
Probably the famous example was Binocular, you can't tell me someone very well connected didn't make a very nice few quid there...
 
Istabraq said:
It'll happen every day for the next 8 weeks too FM.
As I said, when it comes from inside stables and word spreads around the local pubs/social scene it carries credibility.
Probably the famous example was Binocular, you can't tell me someone very well connected didn't make a very nice few quid there...
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Lad I went to uni with in Sheffield was one of the 6 people to get matches at 1000/1 for Binocular.... that story did the rounds at least anyway. Friend of a a good friend but still.
 
Fry out today saying all is well with Unwimh and on target for cleeve hurdle a week on Saturday
 
Is this Clondaw Warrior's target? His 2 runs over 3m look solid. 12/1 nrnb
 
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