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2017 Ryanair Chase

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For Uxi fans -the Donn is with you

Fine return by Uxizandre

You can argue that Uxizandre should not be more than twice Un De Sceaux’s price for the Ryanair Chase now.

It is correct that Un De Sceaux is favourite for the race, Willie Mullins’ horse is top class, he is now a sextuple Grade 1 winner, he is 7lb superior to Uxizandre on official ratings, and he sets the standard in the race to which his rivals must aspire. However, Uxizandre should still probably be closer to him in the betting than he is.

JP McManus’ horse has five lengths to make up on Willie Mullins’ horse on their running in the Clarence House Chase at Cheltenham on Saturday, but there are reasons for believing that he can at least close the gap.

For starters, that was Uxizandre’s first run in 22 months, his first run since he won the Ryanair Chase in 2015, whereas Un De Sceaux had already won the Tingle Creek Chase this season.

Also, while Un De Sceaux has won over two miles and five and a half furlongs in France, you can argue that two miles on that soft ground is close to his optimum. The races in which he has put up his three best performances now on the figures – Saturday’s win, his win last season in the Clarence House Chase, and his win in the Irish Arkle in 2015 – were all over two miles on soft ground.

By contrast, Uxizandre put up the best performance of his life in the Ryanair Chase two years ago. The Ryanair course and distance, two miles and five furlongs on good ground on Cheltenham’s New Course, is obviously close to optimum for him.

One other consideration. Uxizandre did not wear headgear on Saturday. He wore cheekpieces for the first time over fences when he almost sprang a 33/1 shock in the JLT Chase at Cheltenham in 2014, and he wore them again when he won the Grade 1 Manifesto Chase at Aintree and the Shloer Chase at Cheltenham.

Interestingly, he wore a visor for the first time when he won the Ryanair Chase two years ago.

It is probable that Alan King will fit headgear again at the Cheltenham Festival, and it is more than possible that they will elicit further improvement. The Alan King-trained horse should probably be shorter than 8/1 now for the Ryanair Chase.
 
After hosing up at Aintree McCoy said Uxizandre would be a great ride for somebody in the Champion chase, anyone think there's a chance he goes that route?

Barry sounds up for it :p

Douvan was obviously all the talk at Punchestown on Sunday, and he looked good in winning the Tied Cottage Chase. While he won nicely, he just didn’t dispose of the opposition as easily as he probably should have.

Runner-up Realt Mor is rated 138 and he was getting just 8lb from Douvan, and Douvan only beat him by six and a half lengths. He will be better on better ground, but I’m not sure that bookmakers should have been shortening his already short odds for the Champion Chase on the back of this run.
 
Haha goonyagoodthingbarryyyyy - 16/1 NRNB each way in the CC :encouragement:

Real shortage of JP runners in the CC and Ryanair actually isn't there? More Of That the only one off the top of my head that MIGHT run in the Ryanair and I wouldn't want cash on that thing. Must be missing something obvious? - Crickey, just checked and Eastlake the only other one entered in the CC?! and I can't even see another for this race? No real angle, interesting though.
 
16/1 NRNB is a no brainer Kev. If he runs in Champion Chase cant see him starting at more than 8s.

More of that ran well for a long way at Christmas. Sounds like he goes for the Denman Chase on Saturday.
 
Taquin de seuil is on oddschecker at 20's, Kev
 
16/1 NRNB is a no brainer Kev. If he runs in Champion Chase cant see him starting at more than 8s.

More of that ran well for a long way at Christmas. Sounds like he goes for the Denman Chase on Saturday.

I'm on Uxi.

Would you fancy MOT in anything?!
 
MOT will win something one of these days ...might be for Enda though
 
Correct kev, i knew it was jonjo trained, just assumed j.p owned.
 
Aye maybe. Rather your money than mine for now.

No love for more of that ... was on Annie the year he beat get and backed him to won the year after ant post and got no run for my money. Backed him since and never got it back ... owes me big time .... gross little animal haha
 
I think Zabana looks good value at 16-1, will know abit more after weekend I guess.
 
Going to be a horse that loses on Sunday that gets quite a bit shorter for this?

Alary? Sizing John? Both for the Gold Cup? One in each?

One of the Gigginstown horses? Empire of Dirt?

Zabana, as mentioned above...
 
Cant see how sizing john now goes for this after that performance :( disappointed because I thought he was a good bet for this race but surely be gold cup bound now
 
Yeh you;d expect so... do we think any of the beaten horses will turn up? I thought Empire Of Dirt would go Ryanair but again, after today, you'd expect them both to go GC? Probably not looking back at it. Road to Riches?!
 
Yeh probably. Not one that I like though.
 
The Donn just tipped Uxi on Rte.