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2017 Grand National

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Zipiter said:
I see Minella Rocco is joint fav for this now following on from his Gold cup 2nd.

In my opinion the fences will catch him out but he is a dour stayer.


Ive had a few quid ew on Vicente already at 33-1. His last run in the Betfred National trial can be ignored as Nicholls said that he was just out for a run and that Aintree in April has been the target all year.
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A 7 year old as favourite is the bookmakers way of ripping off punters for this years Grand National.
 
Sky also nrnb / bog

I can't have any horses coming from the back of a big run at Cheltenham. 3 weeks recovery time seems way too short.
 
loveracing said:
Sky also nrnb / bog

I can't have any horses coming from the back of a big run at Cheltenham. 3 weeks recovery time seems way too short.
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Cause of Causes maybe an exception?
 
I've took the 8/1 that JP is the winning owner. I can see Minella Rocco being below 8/1 on his own and I'll have another 3 or 4 running for me.
 
Kevloaf said:
Cause of Causes maybe an exception?
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Not to sure. He pulled up in the Scottish a month after last years fest win.

I have him covered in a double with UDS@7/2 and COC@33's. In fact I got 10 horses covered with the UDS double.
 
loveracing said:
Not to sure. He pulled up in the Scottish a month after last years fest win.

I have him covered in a double with UDS@7/2 and COC@33's. In fact I got 10 horses covered with the UDS double.
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Just thinking this fest win probably not going to have taken as much out of him as other festival wins would have?

That is INCREDIBLE LR! .... cracking bets. Very brave :encouragement:
 
loveracing said:
Not to sure. He pulled up in the Scottish a month after last years fest win.

I have him covered in a double with UDS@7/2 and COC@33's. In fact I got 10 horses covered with the UDS double.
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And he wasn't at his best behind Many Clouds in the National after his 4m win.
He clearly loves decent ground and comes alive in the Spring and if you delve far enough back in his form guide you'll find a victory at Ascot, so if he gets an undulating right handed course why not have a crack at the Whitbread ?
 
Worth noting that Elliott used the XC as a prep for Silver Birch (he finished 2nd) before he won the national.
 
Just pressed some Perfect Candidate and had some 66/1 Bishops Road NRNB.
The latter sneaks in down the bottom and has run well against some good yardsticks this year, notably Bristol de Mai, Otago Train and Definitely Red giving weight to them all, gets in 7lb lower than his opening season mark....
 
So far I've got Highland Lodge 40/1, CoC 40/1, Perfect Candidate 100/1.

Two non runners in Don Poli and Gallant Oscar.

I'm amazed Highland Lodge still available at 40/1 given his course form.
 
Kevloaf said:
Just thinking this fest win probably not going to have taken as much out of him as other festival wins would have?

That is INCREDIBLE LR! .... cracking bets. Very brave :encouragement:
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I got a few of these Chelt /G,N bets ,inc- B.dair ,u.d.s , b.de mai *!!, running on to Ucello conti at 33's ,
 
Was going to have a bet today on Def red, Istabraq. and can't decide between Bishops rd or Goodtoknow ?.
 
Istabraq said:
Just pressed some Perfect Candidate and had some 66/1 Bishops Road NRNB.
The latter sneaks in down the bottom and has run well against some good yardsticks this year, notably Bristol de Mai, Otago Train and Definitely Red giving weight to them all, gets in 7lb lower than his opening season mark....
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Great minds Ista - I had BR in with a double the other day but he fell at the last, so I had to back him singly.

So far I have the following...

Singles:-
Ucello Conti - 33/1
Foxrock - 50/1
Highland Lodge - 50/1
Perfect Candidate 50/1
Bishops Road - 66/1

Doubles with USD@ 7/2
Bless The Wings 100/1
Ballynagour 80/1
Maggio 50/1
Vicente 25/1
Just A Par 40/1
Cause Of Causes 33/1
Rogue Angel 40/1
Perfect Candidate 40/1

Others:-
Cause Of Causes 8/1 & Ucello Conti 20/1
 
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Who will be the last horse to get into the national? Bless the Wings is number 49 but would be no 100/1 shot of making the line up.

LR - i see he's one of yours.
 
Many of these have Irish National entries too, I'd say that those who went to Cheltenham as triers are more likely to be held over for Fairyhouse.
You'll always get one or two nervous trainers who aren't sure whether they'll get in who take the Topham option just in case so 49 has every chance of making the cut...
 
Jock em up lads ;)

49 normally gets in I think
 
Obviously it's possible to get lost in the trends but a Q

Placing in the national last year seems to be the kiss of death, but I can't find anything on finishers/unplaced runners.

Basically trying to figure out if you want a horse that is totally new or not
 
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