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2017 Bumper

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I know this is a ridiculously early stage to consider bumper contenders but I doubt we've seen a better bumper horse than Ravenhill Rd so far.

Brian Ellison's horse hacked up on debut at M Rasen and followed up with another second gear win under a penalty today and earns a 25/1 champion bumper quote.

Anything else seen a racecourse at this stage who may be a contender ?
 
Not to my eyes Ista but I don't think I would be near a good judge for this race... I always treat this as a bit of a fun race.... minimum stakes on multiple bullets without any real conviction. (One of the races that in the past I would browse this forum for inspiration!)

Some fantastic horses have been beaten in this race as everyone knows... I've been back and watched the two runs of Ravenshill Road and they're very impressive! I love that he looks around before 2f out and just extends. Looking forward to seeing the beaten horses come out since. Ballyandy last year was out this early so could argue it isn;t too early to have a look?



Changing angle slightly, I was talking to a mate about Champange Fever yesterday (after his return) and I'd forgotten about his bumper win... he had The New One, The Romford Pele, Jezki, Many Clouds, Royal Guardsman, Village Vic, Ifandbutwhynot all in behind... such a fantastic race! Plenty of big race winners in that lot!
 
I always look for a horse that made his rules debut before the Galway festival in this. The thinking being that connections resist the urge to go hurdling to have a crack at this, ive had some good success over the years. Ive a few other criteria as well that id need to see from the runs to show that they have the class required. So far from it being too early all the horses that ill back have already run, now im just trying to work out which ones!!!

On my short list at the moment are (not heard if any of them are staying in bumpers though)

Glens Harmony
Machiato
Poetic Rhythm (ran in a PTP bumper at Aintree in May, but the principle is still the same, i feel)
Western Ryder
 
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Glens harmony has been at the head of the market for the bumper all summer and runs in the last at navan today..
 
kevloaf - take a look at his Supreme win too, strongest renewal of the race I can remember.

The strong trend for the bumper is a horse who has won in a big field race, so I'll be looking closely at the 14+ runner bumpers...
 
If anyone was thinking of backing Getabird for this then now would be the time hes 20/1 with Betway, this will however be the toughest bumper of the season and if he was to win id imagine he will be as short as 6/1. No guarantees though that he will win, as i say the opposition look very decent, looks without doubt the strongest bumper since the Punchestown festival.
 
I agree billy looks a very good race, if something wins this we'll be a massive market shake up
 
Is that the horse that went for £200k after winning a PTP when he was beaten but the leader tipped up at last ?
I remember reading that the sales figure shocked everyone....
 
Yeh it is. Disappointed with myself for not having a little nibble when billy said to!

Is 8 a decent price even now?
 
Won well, very well.
I couldn't make a case for 8s now, most years they are 6/1 the field a week before the race so I'd be inclined to wait until I'd seen all runners and target was confirmed
 
Came on here to post how impressive Getabird was and then saw billys post :grumpy: Great shout at 20's
 
Istabraq said:
Won well, very well.
I couldn't make a case for 8s now, most years they are 6/1 the field a week before the race so I'd be inclined to wait until I'd seen all runners and target was confirmed
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Good point. I was getting a bit ahead of myself.



What previous winners of this race that Getabird won today do we have? Anything of note?
 
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We all know Mullins likes to target the champion bumper, although he hasn't won it in the last few years he always throws lots of darts at it, and his runners usually end up being very good novice hurdlers.. Carter McKay received a lot of mentions in a lot of write ups post season.. He could be intersting
 
That race throws up some decent horses but not always top class bumpers, the likes of Identity Thief, Outlander and Value at Risk have won the race previously.
 
Jamie Lynch from Timeform said today that the rating they gave Getabird for winning yesterday would be good enough to place in every renewal ever of the Champion Bumper and it would win a few of them as well. When you consider that Patrick only rode him out once he had put the race to bed and he will most likely get better for experience and the run/fitness, that was a mighty run.
Looking at the horses at the head of the market id say quite a few are unlikely to run in this and id be really keen on the 8/1 available. Ive had a max bet on at 25/1 so dont want to commit anymore incase of injury but id say that he could easily go off 3/1 on the day. Willie doesnt always give his bumper horses two runs, quite often they only have one prep, especially the good ones that they want to run at the various festivals so I wouldnt be surprised if they put him away now.

8/1 wont last long in this market.
 
Wouldn't he get bigger if he didn't run again though Billy?

If Mullins sends out something else, and before they commit to saying which they think is best (based on jockey bookings most likely) then could he drift?

Interesting comments from TF then... I'm so upset I'm not already on. Feel like it is the first horse so far that I;ve properly missed the boat with!
 
You could be right and he could drift, my take would be hes likely to shorten coz of hype and connections. The Gigginstown horses wont run in the race and the ones that finished 2nd and 3rd could run before and i suppose it depends on what they do. Id be very surprised if he wasnt half the price on the day though, in addition to the Timeform rating he was awarded an RPR of 132 which is massive first time out (moon racer got a 131 on his second run). If he stays fit it will take a very good one to stop him on this evidence.
 
billymag said:
(Kev dont miss Crack Mome)
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:encouragement:

I really like the rating compared to moon racer. I was keen on Altior in the supreme based on his rating being higher than previous supreme winners had been and he was higher than min too. (I obviously had backed min at a bigger price ante post anyway so probably made it easier to have the bet, but still; that was just the first example that popped into my head )

I'm probably going to back getabird too because of he gets any shorter despite what I've said i'd be gutted
 
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