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2017 Bumper

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Managed to top up on Carter Mckay at 25's. Saw he was meant to run today but pulled out today. Hope he has his first run soon.
 
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Managed to top up on Carter Mckay at 25's. Saw he was meant to run today but pulled out today. Hope he has his first run soon.
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What makes you keen on this horse Liam.... .seems to have slipped under my radar completely and I've only seen him mentioned on here?
 
Being mentioned in a few books at start of the season one to keep an eye on another of Mullins. Just being waiting to make an appearance.
 
A couple of bumper possibles

A couple of bumper possibles

Decided to join the fray having read your festival posts for a couple of years now.

Check out Western Ryder & Infinite Sun. Western Ryder won a bumper at Ascot on friday impressively. He just failed to give 7lbs to Infinite Sun in his previous race going down by a short head. Infinite Sun hasn't been out since, but Paddy Brennan said that he hadn't sat on a better bumper for some years. Ive Backed WR @33s because i fancy his owners (westwood,chandler, et al) will quite fancy a runner at the festival.
 
Decided to join the fray having been a lurker for a couple of years.

A couple of bumpers for the notebook. Western Ryder & Infinite Sun.
WR won a bumper at Ascot on friday impressively. He got touched off in his previous bumper by Infinite Sun by a head, giving 7lbs.
Ive backed WR @33s as i think his owners (westwood,chandler) will want a live runner at the festival.
 
Carter Mckay, got a good mention from Paddy Mullins in the Racing Post Xmas preview podcast too so lets hope he impresses tomorrow (later on today technically)
 
How did he run today guys? Missed the race had few family members round.
 
I thought he was going to get beat with about a furlong to go but battled to win by a couple of length. I was really impressed with the Leopardstown bumper winner yesterday and have took the 16/1. I'm surprised he's available at that price given connections.
 
Will keep an eye out on yesterday with the bumper winner as well. There was some cracking races yesterday really enjoyed them.
 
Willie said Carter Mckay will go to a winners bumper and see how he fares to see if he goes to Cheltenham.... so hopefully an improved performance next time.
 
A bit more about Western Ryder

Cheltenham the focus for Western Ryder.

Western Ryder is to be kept under wraps until the Cheltenham Festival, where he will be pitched into the Champion Bumper (25/1 Winner or E/W), trainer Warren Greatrex has confirmed.

The highly-rated five-year-old and son of Westerner made a strong start to his 2016 season last May with a comfortable win at Ffos Las, only to slip back in November when losing out to Infinite Sun in a bumper at Market Rasen.

However, Western Ryder, who is part-owned by golfers Lee Westwood and Darren Clarke, highlighted his potential when coming out on top in a Listed bumper at Ascot before Christmas under the guidance of jockey Gavin Sheehan.

Greatrex has now lifted the lid on the plan for Western Ryder, which will see him being kept ticking over before going to Cheltenham in March where he will look to upset the likes of current race favourite Getabird (6/1 – Winner or E/W) in the Champion Bumper.

“We will go straight to Cheltenham with him. He has come out of the race well,” said the Lambourn handler. “I don’t think we need to run him again. We will now get him fresh and well and go straight there.

“I am not keen on the race, but it is right up his street. Gavin said he had loads left at Ascot and he’s tough, a hard horse with a turn of foot.

“I don’t really like the Cheltenham race, but I think it’s right up his street.”
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I know one of the owners of Western Ryder well OV, though it's not Lee Westwood or Darren Clarke !
I got told about this one before his MR defeat and may well (somewhere in here) have shared the views/expectations of connections who were very confident.
They have bought the horse with a clear target of winning at Cheltenham.
They were offered a large sum of money by JP (can't remember exactly how much but £150k or so) after his debut win at Ffos Las but the dream is to have a Cheltenham winner.

I'm not entirely sure what the conditions are for the race but I thought horses who have won more than 2 bumpers don't qualify, if that;s correct the option of running again doesn't exist....
 
These were the conditions from 2015, assume they haven't changed since. No mention of wins...

Grade 1, Class 1, £60,000 total prize fund. 5.15pm, Wednesday, March 11, 2015, two miles and half a furlong.

For four, five and six-year-olds only which have not run under any recognised Rules of Racing, except National Hunt Flat races, Irish
National Hunt Flat races or French AQPS races.

Horses are not to have run in more than four National Hunt Flat races and, before February 24, 2015, must have been placed first, second, third or fourth in such a race.

Weights: 4-y-o: 10st 11lb, 5-yo
and 6-y-o: 11st 5lb, fillies and mares allowance 7lb.

Entries closed February 24, entries revealed February 25 (46 entries), six-day confirmation stage March 5, final declaration stage 10.00am Tuesday, March 10. Maximum 24 runners.
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Tempted you to have a poke on WR Ista?

I'm a bit of a sucker for stories like that, when a big owner has come in with a bid and it gets turned down...

25/1 1/4 the odds with SJ?

It is also a race that is littered with similar stories so I am sure that wouldn't be a profitable strategy :highly_amused:
 
Has anyone heard anything about Samcro for this because I like the horse a lot and at 20-1 is good value if he runs. However he is just as short for the Neptune which puts me off but there leaving it a bit late to get enough experience over hurdles for this season.
 
He won't be going to Cheltenham this year so save your money Taylor. Gigginstown don't like running horses in the Cheltenham bumper and Elliott has said on a couple of occasions that he'll be put away for next season.
 
Thanks for the info saved me a couple of quid I'm sure I'll throw away on another no hoper.
 
If I was to back Western Ryder it will be a 'heart' bet and not a head one.
The owner I referred to hosts a box I'm in Champion Hurdle day so if they go down this route I'll get the detailed lowdown the day before, that said, he's an optimist and will have mapped out a 2017 plan that takes in the Ascot Gold Cup and Melbourne Cup !
Head says something Irish that's only raced once and won in a big field but I'll be forced to back this one too....
 
Ballyward for me. As impressive as any bumper horse I've seen this season (not that I watch loads of them). Also, Wylie has said that he likes to target the bumper. Could even have the bonus of having Ruby on board, seen as Patrick gets the pick of the bumper horses.
 
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