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2016 Grand National

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Saint Are looks well in again this year off 1lbs lower and went off at 25/1 last year. Can see him going off 16's this year.

Soll was well punted into 9's last year and was going well for a long way. Does anyone fancy him at 40's nrnb?

Very interested in Saint Are LR, looks primed for a big run and last years experience will be invaluable.
Less confident in Soll, if it came up deep he could have a squeek but he's had a few goes already and come up short, heavy rain could change that of course....
 
I just noticed in my exchanges acc I placed bets on Foxrock at prices from 130-300/1. :D

I've been backing Perfect Candidate for weeks now and every time I see 100/1 or bigger I take some, but realised the other day he must be odds against to make the cut, if he does get in he'd be a 20/1 shot....
 
I've been backing Perfect Candidate for weeks now and every time I see 100/1 or bigger I take some, but realised the other day he must be odds against to make the cut, if he does get in he'd be a 20/1 shot....

Looking doubtful Ista. :(
 
This was the stage 47 was last in from in 2015



There are 96 horses going forward for the £1-million Crabbie's Grand National at Aintree following today's scratchings' stage. Last year 74 were left in at this stage, while 73 went forward in 2014 and 57 in 2013. A maximum of 40 runners can line up for the 169th running of the world's most famous jump race at 5.15pm on Saturday, April 9.

Grade Three handicap chase, £1,000,000 total prize fund. Aintree Racecourse. 5.15pm, Saturday, April 9, 2016, four miles, two and a half furlongs (4m 2f 74yds). For seven-year-olds and upwards which, up to and including March 21, have been placed first, second, third or fourth in a chase with an official distance description of 'about three miles' or more and which are allotted a rating of 120 or more by the BHA Head of Handicapping following a review of the horses entered and after taking account of races run up to and including February 14. Horses which are not qualified for a rating in Great Britain or Ireland at closing may also be entered. Such horses may be eligible for a weight providing the Handicapper is satisfied that the horse's racecourse performances up to and including February 14 would merit a minimum rating of 120. To qualify, horses must have run at least three times in chases run under the Rules of Racing of the same Recognised Racing Authority up to and including February 14. At the Handicapper's discretion, such horses may be allocated a rating. The decision of the BHA Head of Handicapping shall be final. Entries closed, February 2, entries revealed February 3 (126 entries).Weights revealed February 16. First scratchings deadline March 1 (113 remained), second scratchings deadline March 22 (96 go forward). Five-day confirmation stage April 4, final declarations 10am, April 7. Maximum field 40 runners.



Horse Age/Wgt
1) MANY CLOUDS (IRE)
2) SILVINIACO CONTI (FR)
3) CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE)
4) FIRST LIEUTENANT (IRE)
5) WONDERFUL CHARM (FR)
6) THIRD INTENTION (IRE)
7) BALLYNAGOUR (IRE)
8) O'FAOLAINS BOY (IRE)
9) GILGAMBOA (IRE)
10) ON HIS OWN (IRE)

11) THE DRUIDS NEPHEW (IRE)
12) TRIOLO D'ALENE (FR)
13) ROCKY CREEK (IRE)
14) SIR DES CHAMPS (FR)
15) ROI DU MEE (FR)
16) HOLYWELL (IRE)
17) SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR (IRE)
18) SOLL
19) BUYWISE (IRE)
20) BOSTON BOB (IRE)

21) TURBAN (FR)
22) AACHEN
23) MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE)
24) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE)
25) GOONYELLA (IRE)
26) UCELLO CONTI (FR)
27) UNIONISTE (FR)
28) LE REVE (IRE)
29) GALLANT OSCAR (IRE)
30) ONENIGHTINVIENNA (IRE)

31) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE)
32) KRUZHLININ (GER)
33) RULE THE WORLD
34) JUST A PAR (IRE)
35) KATENKO (FR)
36) VICS CANVAS (IRE)
37) LIVING NEXT DOOR (IRE)
38) BLACK THUNDER (FR)
39) BALLYCASEY (IRE)
40) HADRIAN'S APPROACH (IRE)

41) SPRING HEELED (IRE)
42) KATKEAU (FR)
43) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR)
44) PENDRA (IRE)
45) SAINT ARE (FR)
46) HOME FARM (IRE)
47) THE ROMFORD PELE (IRE)
48) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE)
49) BISHOPS ROAD (IRE)
50) PINEAU DE RE (FR)

51) ALVARADO (IRE)
52) HIGHLAND LODGE (IRE)
53) MAGGIO (FR)
54) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE)
55) PRESENT VIEW
56) MIDNIGHT PRAYER
57) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA)
58) ROYALE KNIGHT
59) BALLY BEAUFORT (IRE)
60) DOUBLE SEVEN (IRE)

61) MOUNTAINOUS (IRE)
 
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FIRST LIEUTENANT (IRE)
SIR DES CHAMPS
ROI DU MEE
RULE THE WORLD

One of those to give Bryan Cooper the double.

Roi Du Mee to give Cooper/Elliott the double.
 
Cause of Causes needs 16 to come out. There's a fair chance GE runs him in the Irish National I'd say.
 
Nina and The Dentist banned for the race....
 
Which number are we guessing will be last to get in this year?
 
Which number are we guessing will be last to get in this year?

No idea LR, I've pretty much given up on Perfect Candidate but I need Saint Are to squeeze in. Alvarado I have NRNB but he is price (on betfair) as if he is 50/50 to make it and he's 51.
Ground will be key, if it comes up soft we may see some defectors and the 50s have a chance
 
Appeal upheld, no dentist
He can count himself unfortunate

U reckon he was unfortunate Ista?

I think all jockeys and horses should get treated the same no matter what they have won or achieved. They should have known the horse wasn't right at home and not run him at all.

Just my opinion. :)
 
U reckon he was unfortunate Ista?

I think all jockeys and horses should get treated the same no matter what they have won or achieved. They should have known the horse wasn't right at home and not run him at all.

Just my opinion. :)

Yep true, I get that, but there are racecourse vets who inspect every horse before each race for signs of lameness so if anything had been visibly wrong he woudl have been withdrawn on the vets instruction.
I'm convinced he was acting in the best interests of the horse in pulling him up and the fact the horse was retired immediately after suggests he knew the horse was wrong in running, consideration for the family association etc should have been given, he was probably more a family pet than racehorse but I do get both sides.
I play the place markets on betfair quite alot and had I backed Long Run 3 or 4 places I would have been spewing but that view would have changed as soon as I found out the horse may not have been sound.
 
Scrub that !

''Amateurs Sam Waley-Cohen and Nina Carberry are now free to ride in the Grand National at Aintree, after the British Horseracing Authority ruled suspensions due to apply on that day will not stand "owing to ambiguous wording of the Rule".

Waley-Cohen was banned for seven days following his ride on Long Run at Carlisle on Sunday, while Carberry was similarly hit after her winning effort aboard On The Fringe at Cheltenham.

National day, April 9, was due to be part of Waley-Cohen's ban, and was the concluding date of Carberry's - but the BHA tweeted: "Owing to ambiguous wording of the Rule, suspensions imposed on Sam Waley-Cohen and Nina Carberry will no longer apply on Grand National day.

"This decision follows a representation to this effect being made by Sam Waley-Cohen today."

Waley-Cohen had on Thursday appealed against his ban on now-retired former Gold Cup winner Long Run.

Waley-Cohen sent his mount straight into the lead on what was his first start for 672 days and while he jumped well for much of the three-mile journey, a couple of significant errors led to him coming under pressure.

Long Run looked sure to finish third after jumping the final fence, but Waley-Cohen appeared to stop riding for a few strides after the last before pushing him out again, being passed by Barachois Silver and Durban Gold and beating just one rival home.

Long Run was retired on the spot, while Waley-Cohen was found guilty of failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to obtain the best possible placing in that he failed to ride out on a horse that could have finished third.

Having viewed the film of the race and heard all the evidence, a BHA disciplinary panel, while accepting Long Run was tiring, felt that he could have finished third - but for the fact that Waley-Cohen stopped riding for 12 strides on the run-in.

The dates of the suspension were due to include the Grand National and the Fox Hunters' Chase at Aintree, although the latter still stands.

The panel ordered Waley-Cohen's deposit be forfeited as no new evidence was produced, other than that which was considered by the Carlisle stewards on the day.

Profiles Mr S Waley-Cohen Ms N Carberry
Waley-Cohen is the most successful rider in modern history over the National fences at Aintree, winning six times, including the Topham Handicap Chase over the daunting obstacles 12 months ago.

The National confusion centred around the Pinsent Masons Handicap Hurdle, which is restricted to conditional and amateur jockeys.

Waley-Cohen told Press Association Sport: "The rules as they are written say they (amateur riders) are banned on a day when there is an amateur chase or an amateur hurdle, but the race after the National is for amateurs and conditionals. That means it is not an amateur race.

"It's been a bit of a roller-coaster of a day. From all the disappointment and everything else, the hope is now there. All I need now is a horse."

Carberry is also very much in demand over the National obstacles, completing the course four times from five tries, most recently on First Lieutenant last year.

A statement from the BHA read: "Having received representation from Sam Waley-Cohen today, following his unsuccessful appeal against the seven-day suspension imposed on him by the Carlisle Stewards on 20 March 2016, the British Horseracing Authority has this evening amended the dates of the suspensions imposed on both Sam Waley-Cohen and Nina Carberry to the extent that they will no longer apply on Grand National day, April 9, 2016.

"The representation from Sam Waley-Cohen suggested that the way in which the Schedule of the Rules was worded was ambiguous. While the intention of the Schedule is to suspend amateur riders when races are taking place in which they can participate, the BHA accept that the various changes to the Schedule over the years mean that the Rule is open to different interpretation.

"The ban was previously scheduled to apply on Grand National day because of the existence of a hurdle race at Aintree which is confined to amateur riders and conditional jockeys. However, the specific wording of Schedule (B)1 10.1 of the Rules of Racing states that a riding suspension imposed on an Amateur Rider will apply:

"10.1.2 when the Rule Contravention occurs in a steeple chase, hurdle race or National Hunt Flat Race on those days:

"10.1.2.1 when an Amateur Riders steeple chase, or

"10.1.2.2 when an Amateur Riders hurdle race, or

"10.1.2.3 when a National Hunt Flat Race confined to Amateur Riders and Conditional Jockeys is run.

"The representation pointed to the fact that the clause relating to National Hunt Flat races refers specifically to races confined to Amateur Riders and Conditional Jockeys, however the clause relating to hurdle races refers only to races confined to Amateur Riders.

"Having now identified the anomaly, the BHA will take steps to amend the Schedule to ensure future amateur suspensions correctly reflect the aforementioned intention."

Waley-Cohen's new dates of suspension are April 3-5 inclusive, April 7, 11, 12 and 15. Carberry sits out April 1-5, April 7 and 11.
 
Wouldnt it be nice if Nina won the National after that. Karma after the cyclist getting all the foxhunters headlines.
 
I'd be happy for either of them to ride any horse I'd backed in the national. Both of their records over the national fences are impressive.
 
I'd be happy for either of them to ride any horse I'd backed in the national. Both of their records over the national fences are impressive.

Yep but SWC is proper aristocracy and Nina just racing aristocracy. There must be a bit of a leftie in me.:)

It would be a proper National story if either won now,
 
Wouldnt it be nice if Nina won the National after that. Karma after the cyclist getting all the foxhunters headlines.

Yep, couldn't agree more.
The cyclist has caused row after row in my house, the wife says how well she did etc etc etc and I agree, but I resent the camera's pointing her way when Nina and On The Fringe had just created history with a memorable double in the race.
The media should be ashamed, the achievements of Nina are exceptional and should celebrated not some cyclist who gave her horse a poor ride focusing on completion rather than position until late in the race