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2000 Guineas

The King Pimm said:
Ok cheers FM. Do you think Pinatubo is a pretty bomb proof fav or is there better value going for an outsider or without Fav market? From the 2 races I saw Pinatubo last season he was very impressive and he’s the next 2 in the market already. If he runs to his standard last season is he unbeatable??
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I think he's going to be really tough to beat but I'm not a fan of backing at those odds (my record on short price horses Is abysmal).

I chanced Al Suhail at 28/1 a week ago. He's not the most genuine but is a talented horse imo. I like him for the Derby too.
 
The King Pimm said:
I’m not that knowledgeable or profitable on the flat but I do enjoy a punt. Therefore a bit of guidance would be very much appreciated. How much impact and influence does a high draw have on a 1 mile race at Newmarket? What are the favoured stall positions?
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Faugheen_Machine said:
TKP - Personally, I wouldn't put any significance on the draw for Guineas. It's a straight mile and doubt there'll be a draw bias - the best horse on the day should be victorious.
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A straight mile probably negates an actual draw bias like Chester would have for example. However, it's probably worth having a look at where the likely early pace is etc. That's where there might be a pace bias at a certain area of the track.

Last year's race was a good example of this with the stand side considered to have a bias.
 
jack1092 said:
A straight mile probably negates an actual draw bias like Chester would have for example. However, it's probably worth having a look at where the likely early pace is etc. That's where there might be a pace bias at a certain area of the track.

Last year's race was a good example of this with the stand side considered to have a bias.
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Stands rail looked very much the place to be today... high numbers maybe an advantage?
 
That stands rail often looks like a golden highway.
But you have to watch for them moving the starting stalls.
Think they may be on the far side tomorrow, according to the Racing Post.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/tomorrow

1m 4f centre, all others far side.

It was stands side today.

they could still head for the rail anyway, but not as straightforward as today.
 
Quevega said:
That stands rail often looks like a golden highway.
But you have to watch for them moving the starting stalls.
Think they may be on the far side tomorrow, according to the Racing Post.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/tomorrow


1m 4f centre, all others far side.

It was stands side today.

they could still head for the rail anyway, but not as straightforward as today.
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Saturday the stalls move back to the STAND Side
Sunday the stalls move over to the FAR Side.
 
.....Royal Dornoch is my e/w play in this as I think it’s a certain stayer and could run into things late on.
 
Eggs said:
.....Royal Dornoch is my e/w play in this as I think it’s a certain stayer and could run into things late on.
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Yeah just read this:

Royal Dornoch beat subsequent Racing Post Trophy winner Kameko in the Royal Lodge here in September and up-and-coming Tom Marquand could enjoy a first ride for Aidan O’Brien


40/1 seems fair versus the 10/1 for Kameko.

The problem is I don't like Kameko at all :highly_amused:
 
Pray for Pinatubo day :highly_amused:
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Pray for Pinatubo day :highly_amused:
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:applause:

I've taken the 5/6 - 12 points win. (Also got 4 points on in doubles that roll on)


1.5 pts e/w on Military March 25/1 (ante post)
0.5 pts e/w on Royal Dornoch 40/1 (4 places)


1 pt Military March 2000/Derby 100/1
0.5 pt Al Suhail 2000/Derby 150/1




Doesn't look great on paper :highly_amused:
 
Joined you on the 100/1 Military March double Kev.

Had a small play on him antepost for the 2000 Guineas at 20s so may as well have some on the double
 
Eggs said:
.....Royal Dornoch is my e/w play in this as I think it’s a certain stayer and could run into things late on.
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Agree with you Eggs
 
Pfft, where are the fences? :highly_amused:
 
Ah jeez! That'll be a few points down the pan then! And likely the end of me trying to get ahead on some festival horses :highly_amused:

Flat racing ffs :sorrow::heart-borken:

On to Donald :highly_amused:
 
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Nothing beats watching the flat, them hitting 2 furlongs out and your selection starting to go backwards
 
robith said:
Nothing beats watching the flat, them hitting 2 furlongs out and your selection starting to go backwards
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Can so relate to this :dejection:
 
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