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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018

This is actually incredibly uncomfortable Geraghty is an atmosphere sponge
 
They get it wrong sometimes though. and they have to be guessing to some extent if the horse has never ran there.

What I've taken from some of these previews is the undoubted influence of some of the owners, reading between the lines I'm pretty certain that G Elliott would go Supreme for Samcro. I'm sure he could go through the other entries and be pretty confident of beating them, and he would tell you that's not as certain for the Ballymore. He would also like to get one in the bag early. It's gigginstown that want ballymore not gordon. But what can he say really ?
I also think he said his biggest mistake was not entering Apple's jade for the irish champion as he could have used that to justify a shot/persuade the olearys for the champion hurdle. Sure he'd want that on his CV.
Obviously he's been told where Dounikos goes as well.
And Monalee would be JLT if it was up to the trainer.
There only seems to be Willie who can twist his owners this way and that.
Ricci said that willie wanted to run all three mares in the mares hurdle, but ricci said no, next day Vrooum vroum mag worked bad and retired. Genius.

Yep, agree with that.
Giggs are control freaks, they pay the bill and demand they own the decisions, there was always more to the shift from Mullins to Elliotts than a fiver a month training fees !

I still think Ricci calls some of the shots, every horse he owns is with the yard and the power therefore is with the owner, if Ricci threatened to move his horses I'm not sure what would happen to the yard given the vacant boxes left behind by Giggs.
Maybe archie knows how full the yard is....
 
Yep, agree with that.
Giggs are control freaks, they pay the bill and demand they own the decisions, there was always more to the shift from Mullins to Elliotts than a fiver a month training fees !

I still think Ricci calls some of the shots, every horse he owns is with the yard and the power therefore is with the owner, if Ricci threatened to move his horses I'm not sure what would happen to the yard given the vacant boxes left behind by Giggs.
Maybe archie knows how full the yard is....

Wasn't the story at the time that the boxes were filled within a few days?
 
Wasn't the story at the time that the boxes were filled within a few days?

Possibly KB, I didn't follow the aftermath, no question his services would have been in demand by small owners but I assumed 30+ exits would have been a bit of a hit
 
Yep, agree with that.
Giggs are control freaks, they pay the bill and demand they own the decisions, there was always more to the shift from Mullins to Elliotts than a fiver a month training fees !

I still think Ricci calls some of the shots, every horse he owns is with the yard and the power therefore is with the owner, if Ricci threatened to move his horses I'm not sure what would happen to the yard given the vacant boxes left behind by Giggs.
Maybe archie knows how full the yard is....

Yep, but I get the feeling he's like a nice uncle, and all they have to do is send someone to put an arm round his shoulder and talk him round, Ruby , Willie , Patrick. They 100% engineered the Vautour Ryaniar thing and he took the flak.
 
Not wishing to defend anyone but it's worth noting that Cheltenham is the most unique racecourse in the country, continuous undulations unbalance a number of horses and if connections think their horse won't show their true ability at the track it makes no sense to run them there when there are big pot available at track that might suit.
No-one knows a horse better than their trainer...

So tell why its always small-time trainers who think like that?? Its a mentality thing that will confine them to staying small-time.
 
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PK - Paul Kealy

GL - Gavin Lynch

PM - Patrick Mullins

RF - Richard Forristal

TM - Thom Malone

NM - Nicola McGeady







Supreme



PM - Very excited about Getabird. Was very impressive lto, jumped brilliant, and professionally.



PK - Not sure what is wrong with Kalashnikov. Found loads, and can't see him out of the frame.



RF - Taking Getabird on. Question about going l/h. Last 6 winners run at least 4 times. Thinks ND should be in this. Huge engine.



GL - On Getabird, and will be on again on the day if he goes 9/4 5/2. People presume he's slow, has gears. Summerville Boy best e/w.







Arkle



PM - Footpad our nap of the festival. Just under top class as a hurdler, and not sure PM jumps well enough. SC a worry, but Footpad has form in the book.



PK - Can't knock Footpad on anything done over fences, but thinks PM will be a better horse than he was LTO. Thinks SC wants soft ground, even though trainer says not a worry.



NM - Footpad started to drift in the week, evens to 15/8, and others started to shorten, but then everyone said nothign wrong, nothing changed. People looking at ground she thinks. Likes SC.



GL - Against BP, jumps to right, poor at chelts x2. Can't have SC unless soft. Thinks FP held up, behind. Worried about PM jumping. With Footpad, always an advantage to have Ruby.



RF - With Footpad, and thinks PM's run was outstanding last time. Not sure he'll turn it around. Hard to oppose Footpad. Can't remember seeing a hurdler improve to much for going over a fence. If it wasn't for the drift wouldn't even think about getting it beat.



PM - Wasn't quick enough for CH over 2, but the way he jumps fences makes up ground, and makes him quick enough for 2m chase.







Champion Hurdle



PM - Faugheen been fine all year, which is why we are scratching our heads. We know he still has ability, after Morgiana. Changed a few things at home, and hoping that will spark him up a bit, as well as Cheltenham. Yorkhill schooled very well over hurdles at Curragh, so have option of here, or Ryanair.



RF - Where would you run him?



GL - CH

RF - Ryanair

NM - Ryanair

PK - On his runs this year doesn't matter



We know ability is there, but thinks that Yorkhill is in better form than all year. Wicklow Brave, better ground, better he'll run. Melon never went a yard with the hood, thinks he is great value at 10/1, and taking hood off at Cheltenham.



PK - I always want to oppose short prices, even if only small bets. Only chink for BD is that he might have forgotten how to race. Shaken up to beat JC, because almost looked like forgotten what to do. Won a good CH, but has backed Wicklow Brave, in normal and w/o markets. Thinks he is very talented, and asks PM if he's riding. PM laughs and says he would love to ride WB.



RF - Thinks 3m was a test first time out for Yorkhill, thinks he'll pick up pieces in whatever race he runs in. BD beat a proper yardstick in MTOY, and wouldn't worry about last day. Can't see Faugheen winning now.



GL - Yorkhill, Faugheen,, and BD only horses who have ability to win race, and two of them you can't have. BD may have forgotten how to race, but can't look past BD.



All say how good a horse MTOY is, and PM says doesn't get credit he's deserves.







Mares Hurdle



Can AJ be beaten?



PK - Backed La Bague for this and Stayers. Thinks she'll prob end up here because Stayers looking tough, and one to beat here.



PM - BDD prob go here, very exciting over fences, but schooled well over hurdles. LTO ran very keen, and did well to win. AJ fantastic. VVM in great form, but going without a prep. Won't give her as much rope this time, and hope that helps.



NM - Anything but Apples Jade please



RF - Non event AJ wins. Beat Supasundae, and SS fave for Stayers. 4/6 is almost value. Verdana Blue value at 20/1 a place if she runs.



GL - AJ great, but thinks BDD might chase her home, if you can get 5/2 3/1 w/o value.







Handicaps



PK - Ultima - Coo Star Sivola, Close Bros - Barney Dwan, NH Chase - No Comment



PM - Might ride Rathvinden in the NH Chase



RF - NH Chase - Jury Duty, Ultima - American & Le Rocher



GL - NH Chase - Rathvinden, Close Bros - Any Second Now







Neptune



PK - Samcro prob is good thing, but I don't back short priced faves. Take him on with Black Op. Thinks he ran a nice race against Santini.



PM - Next Destination most likely to go here, but entered everywhere. ND form not as good as Samcro, but know he handles Cheltenham, and jumps very well.



NM - This is the one we'd probably want to lay, of the hype horses.



RF - Fantastic horse, but I'm a ND fan, and hope he doesn't run in the AB. Look at what he beat the last day, beat CS, Jetz, BBB, DDG. Thinks ND take some stopping here or Supreme.



PK - 4 of last 7 faves been beaten in this race.



GL - Hard to see Samcro beaten. Against OTBS, hill is a worry, NH even said. ND and Samcro 1-2. Would like Samcro in Supreme.



TM - Anything at a big price?



PK - Black Op thinks happier on better ground. NH talks about Santini as a GC horse.



PM - Not sure where DDG goes, but thinks 14/1 good price and entitled to improve.







RSA



NM - PP my bet of the week



RF - Take on PP not ideal prep, beaten at top level. For a horse to win a G1 after fall Monalee had was some going. Bad fall, and a kicking, won well last day, one for him.



GL - Thinks Davy is a better judge than he is.



PK - Likes PP, didn't like the prep. 1/2 thinks Monalee is ending up in the JLT, race falling apart. Not sure what's wrong with Black Corton, won Reynoldstown easily, and if he started his career in November, would be shorter. Could be a fluke, but jumps well, and always finds.



PM - Al Boum Photo & IO, will be split. One going JLT. Gave Monalee an easy lead, and that's why race finished like it did. Thinks set up for Monalee, and thinks he's more of a JLT horse. Over 3m, thinks it might be like AB last year. Not sure PP race was hard, hacked around, and PP could have won. DR gave him sympathetic ride. Al Boum Photo more room for improvement, than IO.







QMCC



TM - Altior?



PK - Yeah, most likely. Got to prove it, after first run out from break. Should be good enough, and wouldn't surprise him if Min got closer. Way they talk about Altior, he could be another Sprinter.



PM - Min better chaser, but not sure he'd turn it around with Altior, as he doesn't look any worse over fences. Min had better prep, but Altior looked good. Douvan is the one. Stepping him up day by day, and if he pleases them in a couple important bits of work this week will go. Thinks he's better than Altior. Holly is delighted with him, going without a run. Unenviable task, but if any horse can, Douvan could.



NM - Not much support for Douvan, and Altior return was a dream. Competitive race. Politologue solid e/w. If Min or Douvan show up, it's a race.



RF - Can't see Douvan coming back FTO. Quevega did it in the mares, but this isn't the mares.



PM - We managed it with Arctic Fire



RF - That's' not Altior, if you do this, greatest training performance ever. Altior impossible to oppose, not concerned about bounce. Min improving horse, but it's Altior.



GL - Altior should be 180 after Cheltenham, thinks he's underrated. Interesting to see who Ruby rides. Ricci said if Ruby doesn't ride Douvan, why we running him? Shocked if Altior beat.







Bumper







PM - I usually listen to Willie for my ride in the bumper, but I have more of a say than other races.



Blackbow best performance so far. Hollowgraphic he loves. .Ran great race last year as a 4yo, and won well lto. Tornado Flyer will improve for the run. Carefully Selected surprise package, and will be a strong stayer who will settle. No problem with atmosphere, in his opinion.



GL - Blackbow, thinks Rhinestone the danger. Last day was shortly after Irish CH, and quicker than Supasundae with same weight.



RF - Blackbow, form great, and sire is good. Hollowgraphic not for him as a bumper, but long term prospect. Know your score as an outsider at big price. Bought for 400k for pipe, and 33/1 overpriced.



NM - Nick Gifford's horse positive, but can't separate Hollow & Blackbow



PK - Doesn't have a big bet in this. Blackbow great rating, but sneaky feeling Rhinestone might turn it around.



PM - Giggs horse entered, not sure if it runs.







Weds Handicaps



GL - Can't wait to see DR on Mitchouka in FW and watching him ride it. Tiger Roll & Cause of Causes in Cross Country.



RF - Malaya in Fred Winter & Jers Girl in Coral Cup if she runs.



PM - Deal D'estruval surprised how well he ran over 2, appreciate step up.



NM - Act of Valour maybe in FW seen some bets for



PK - Le Breuil & Springtown Lake Coral Cup & Act of Valour in Fred Winter off 136 - PN won it 3/7







JLT



TM - What's going to run biggest problem



PM - IO or ABP - Possibly IO as ABP looked like staying on better last day.



RF - Looks like a consolation race, and Modus appeals. 2nd in Champ Bumper, and 2nd in CC behind Supasundae. 7/1 a fair price.



PK - FO horse with most talent, but not prep you want. No mean feat to give Benatar 7lbs, and if he can return to that, should go close. Backed Benatar, too. If Monalee turns up, wins.



GL - Finians most talent, but jumping. Modus run 4x and won 3/4 in small fields at odds on. IO right favourite, and would fancy Monalee if it showed up. Poorest of the 3 chases. Maybe IO.







TM - Un De Sceaux great.



PM - Loves the game. 2x Sprinter beat him he got back up for 2nd. Iron Horse. Ran away with Ruby in middle of race, and some of those leaps. Was extraordinary last year. Not a big horse, but attacks fences. More cut the better. Never been forgiven for being beaten by Sprinter, but won an Arkle & Ryanair.



PK - Loves Cue Card, wil have to back him, but can't see him winning. Sometimes you get on the wrong side of a horse, and stay there. That's me with UDS. Only thing is, the horses in behind last year are 1/22 since. Will take him on with BDF, with hope, more than anything. Top Notch could come back, but not sure if he's 'Top Notch'



GL - Agrees with PM that UDS doesn't get the respect he deserves. Fantastic horse. Pity we won't see Waiting Patiently, and thinks BDF be better with good ground.



RF - UDS underappreciated. Great battle to get back for 2nd against Sprinter. Can't see him beaten, and thinks price is value. Would love to see WP here, for the spectacle.



PM - 8/1 NRNB big price for Yorkhill, and the rail on his inside helps like Ruby says. Easier to ride at Cheltenham.







Mares Novice Hurdle



TM - Laurina



PM - She's like Let's Dance, but taller. In fantastic form, we think the world of her. If ground a little softer it will suit. Maria's Benefit has experience. What Laurina did at Fairyhouse looked exceptional.



PK - Handicapper rated Maria's Benefit 152, not sure the prices should be so wide apart. Prices are wrong with that big a diff. But MB had a setback.



GL - MB only missed a weeks work, should be ok.



RF - Laurina's form strong. If she's as good as they saying, she won't be beaten.







Stayers Hurdle



TM - Supasundae favourite here, are you with him?



PK - Didn't finish strongest lto, so you wonder. Backed La Bague a few weeks ago, but don't think running here now. Rumours about Bloom trying to get a box for the Thursday. If Penhill returns to that form.



PM - Penhill back in full training, and as fit as they can have him. Holly said he is her nap of the festival. Won so well last year, and Monalee 2nd. Know he handles track/trip, lots experience. Schooled well the other day. Not ideal, but have to play the cards how they're dealt. Wide open race. Bacardys overpriced, schooled him and he's slick over hurdles, even after going chasing. Race he won in Punchestown very good.



RF - Supasundae worthy favourite, and thinks Yanworth prob be favourite if he hadn't gone chasing. Thinks Supasundae is lairy, and running in ICH was right. Sam Spinner is vulnerable. Robbie can ride a race on SS, but needs to stay, thinks he will.



Talking about Apples beating SS, and PM thinks that AJ beat SS easier than it looked.





GL - Laying Sam Spinner, Supa Sundae 0/2 at the trip. Yanworth or Penhill for him. Penhill pushed wide in AB and still won.



PK - Coming round to Penhill. Thinks UKWIMH could be a silly price, but he's another 10 year old, and hasn't been as good this year.







Thursday Handicaps



GL - Mall Dini - KM Sqouateur doesn't jump well enough. Brown Advisory - Kings Socks 2nd to Footpad in a G1



RF - Mall Dini - KM & Sort It Out - Pertemps



PK - Who Dares Wins - Pertemps. Brown Advisory - Mister Whittaker better on good ground



PM - Nothing in KM or Pertemps. Pleasant Company in Brown Adv, might go to National. Patricks Park up 10lbs, and will run where he can get in.







Triumph Hurdle



PM - This race has changed, French breds have changed it. Lots of proper NH bred horses. Mr Adjudicator has best form. Good race, and told time was good, w/e that means. Farclas was 2nd to Espoir when he was on form. Jumped a bit sticky early, but better with hood off. Stormy Ireland is pandoras box, hopes timeform right. Very small, and doesn't do as much at home. Fabulous jumper, and the plan wasn't that in Fairyhouse, but let her roll on. Wasn't 100% for Leopardstown, train her better at home. Great form now. Saldier is a chasing horse for future, and very good flat form. Can't wait to see him over a fence.



NM - Apples Shakira unbeaten in 4, and NH singing her praises. Impressed with Redicean.



PK - AS been favourite, but not sure it will like it if ground turns up fast. Worried about Redicean, after first 2. Laid him everything last time, and watched him run like that. Farclas getting buried will help him, he thinks. Battled when they went last few furlongs. Both good, but fancies Farclas on better ground.



RF - Take on AS, looks like wants soft, but agrees with PK. Won't know which is best form. Redicean looked most impressive, and last time at Kempton looked vg. No bet, but Redicean the one.



GL - Very hard race, lots unbeaten. Redicean looked like diff horse lto. AS, on ground doesn't want better, NH thinks she does. Stormy prob make running, very fast race. AS if she's close enough will def finish up hill.



Talk about Stormy winning time being so good. RF says take it with pinch of salt, and GL agrees, but says it was very good.







Albert Bartlett



PM - Fabulous Saga obvious one, and race has strong profile for horses with experience, which he has. Forgive last run, too bad to be true. DDG fascinating horse, but same owner as FS. Next Destination was quite keen the last day, and you need to settle. Ballyward is there, would race behind the bridle, not enough experience maybe. Real Steel another one, who thinks better going over a trip. PT said same thing after he won over 2m.



PK - Santini only 3 runs, need exp. Doesn't ruin horses, but inexp get found out. 62 non finishers. For that reason Calett Mad, who he can't believe is 25/1 still. Going well in NH Chase before his 5th birthday. Bolted up in Pertemps trial. Nick Luck said NTD told him Calett Mad one horse that is thriving.



RF - Chef Des Obeaux he likes, and the last time a winner of this hadn't run over 3m was Bobs Worth. CDO ticks box, out and out stayer.



GL - CDO interesting if it comes up soft. Another Haydock merchant. If ground is good fancy Santini. DDG can't see him staying if you watch end of race with ND. Soft ground CDO or Chriss Dream.







Gold Cup



RF - In Might Bite camp, and Sizing John. Thinks it's between those 2. Great run destroying Djakadam, and out too quick lto. Might Bite is the up and coming horse. To do what he did in RSA, and still get up the hill after what he did. NDB knows what's coming, and if it wasn't for that quirk he'd be shorter. NR shouldn't be good enough. Our Duke improving but still a way. KV fallen or nearly fallen twice.



PM - SJ overpriced. KV had the injury, but has an engine, and it's an ask with his jumping. Inexperienced, and a race like this. Total Recall, thinks his form with Whisper puts him a way behind, but he's improving. Djakadam is overpriced, he thinks. Race always throws up horses that place year after year. Disappointed in Leopardstown, maybe ride him diff.



PK - Wide open. MB might be most talented, but wandered around 3/4 times at Cheltenham. SJ prob the best if he comes back. Likes young improving profile, and Road To Respect has that. Bachasson at a massive price, could be very talented. Skipped round AB, but didn't get home as a 5yo. Big ask, but big price.



PM - Bachasson improved a lot, but has heart and scope to jump. He's a young protential improver.



GL - Small e/w on Bachasson @ 50/1. Might Bite is actually 9, and should be 7/7 without Kempton. New Course is 50yards further in, so won't know about gate. NDB went too soon in KG, kicking before the bend. Idles a lot. Sizing John massive chance. Can't believe Native River is 5/1, will place lay him. Needs soft ground.



PK - Road to Respect

PM - Might Bite

NM - Our Duke

RF - Might Bite

GL - Sizing John







Friday Handicaps



GL - Hunters Call in the County Hurdle. Burning Ambition for Foxhunters 5/7 and young improver. Jamie Codd riding.



RF - Burning Ambition agreed. County Hurdle - Burbank & Patricks Park in Grand Annual.



PM - Carter McKay & Sandsend in M.Pipe.



PK - Ivanovich Gorbatov in County and thinks Hunters Call form looks fantastic. Deal D'Estruval & Des Bieffes with James Bowen in M. Pipe. Diego Du Charmil in the Grand Annual



PM - Whiskey Sour is in Supreme/County couldn't enter him in eurovision. Wants good ground.



'Very Willie Answer' from panel.



Charity Bets



PK - Coo Star Sivola in Ultima

PM - Footpad in Arkle

GL - Blackbow in Bumper

RF - Know The Score in Bumper

NM - Saint Calvados in Arkle
 
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PK - Paul Kealy

GL - Gavin Lynch

PM - Patrick Mullins

RF - Richard Forristal

TM - Thom Malone

NM - Nicola McGeady







Supreme



PM - Very excited about Getabird. Was very impressive lto, jumped brilliant, and professionally.



PK - Not sure what is wrong with Kalashnikov. Found loads, and can't see him out of the frame.



RF - Taking Getabird on. Question about going l/h. Last 6 winners run at least 4 times. Thinks ND should be in this. Huge engine.



GL - On Getabird, and will be on again on the day if he goes 9/4 5/2. People presume he's slow, has gears. Summerville Boy best e/w.







Arkle



PM - Footpad our nap of the festival. Just under top class as a hurdler, and not sure PM jumps well enough. SC a worry, but Footpad has form in the book.



PK - Can't knock Footpad on anything done over fences, but thinks PM will be a better horse than he was LTO. Thinks SC wants soft ground, even though trainer says not a worry.



NM - Footpad started to drift in the week, evens to 15/8, and others started to shorten, but then everyone said nothign wrong, nothing changed. People looking at ground she thinks. Likes SC.



GL - Against BP, jumps to right, poor at chelts x2. Can't have SC unless soft. Thinks FP held up, behind. Worried about PM jumping. With Footpad, always an advantage to have Ruby.



RF - With Footpad, and thinks PM's run was outstanding last time. Not sure he'll turn it around. Hard to oppose Footpad. Can't remember seeing a hurdler improve to much for going over a fence. If it wasn't for the drift wouldn't even think about getting it beat.



PM - Wasn't quick enough for CH over 2, but the way he jumps fences makes up ground, and makes him quick enough for 2m chase.







Champion Hurdle



PM - Faugheen been fine all year, which is why we are scratching our heads. We know he still has ability, after Morgiana. Changed a few things at home, and hoping that will spark him up a bit, as well as Cheltenham. Yorkhill schooled very well over hurdles at Curragh, so have option of here, or Ryanair.



RF - Where would you run him?



GL - CH

RF - Ryanair

NM - Ryanair

PK - On his runs this year doesn't matter



We know ability is there, but thinks that Yorkhill is in better form than all year. Wicklow Brave, better ground, better he'll run. Melon never went a yard with the hood, thinks he is great value at 10/1, and taking hood off at Cheltenham.



PK - I always want to oppose short prices, even if only small bets. Only chink for BD is that he might have forgotten how to race. Shaken up to beat JC, because almost looked like forgotten what to do. Won a good CH, but has backed Wicklow Brave, in normal and w/o markets. Thinks he is very talented, and asks PM if he's riding. PM laughs and says he would love to ride WB.



RF - Thinks 3m was a test first time out for Yorkhill, thinks he'll pick up pieces in whatever race he runs in. BD beat a proper yardstick in MTOY, and wouldn't worry about last day. Can't see Faugheen winning now.



GL - Yorkhill, Faugheen,, and BD only horses who have ability to win race, and two of them you can't have. BD may have forgotten how to race, but can't look past BD.



All say how good a horse MTOY is, and PM says doesn't get credit he's deserves.







Mares Hurdle



Can AJ be beaten?



PK - Backed La Bague for this and Stayers. Thinks she'll prob end up here because Stayers looking tough, and one to beat here.



PM - BDD prob go here, very exciting over fences, but schooled well over hurdles. LTO ran very keen, and did well to win. AJ fantastic. VVM in great form, but going without a prep. Won't give her as much rope this time, and hope that helps.



NM - Anything but Apples Jade please



RF - Non event AJ wins. Beat Supasundae, and SS fave for Stayers. 4/6 is almost value. Verdana Blue value at 20/1 a place if she runs.



GL - AJ great, but thinks BDD might chase her home, if you can get 5/2 3/1 w/o value.







Handicaps



PK - Ultima - Coo Star Sivola, Close Bros - Barney Dwan, NH Chase - No Comment



PM - Might ride Rathvinden in the NH Chase



RF - NH Chase - Jury Duty, Ultima - American & Le Rocher



GL - NH Chase - Rathvinden, Close Bros - Any Second Now







Neptune



PK - Samcro prob is good thing, but I don't back short priced faves. Take him on with Black Op. Thinks he ran a nice race against Santini.



PM - Next Destination most likely to go here, but entered everywhere. ND form not as good as Samcro, but know he handles Cheltenham, and jumps very well.



NM - This is the one we'd probably want to lay, of the hype horses.



RF - Fantastic horse, but I'm a ND fan, and hope he doesn't run in the AB. Look at what he beat the last day, beat CS, Jetz, BBB, DDG. Thinks ND take some stopping here or Supreme.



PK - 4 of last 7 faves been beaten in this race.



GL - Hard to see Samcro beaten. Against OTBS, hill is a worry, NH even said. ND and Samcro 1-2. Would like Samcro in Supreme.



TM - Anything at a big price?



PK - Black Op thinks happier on better ground. NH talks about Santini as a GC horse.



PM - Not sure where DDG goes, but thinks 14/1 good price and entitled to improve.







RSA



NM - PP my bet of the week



RF - Take on PP not ideal prep, beaten at top level. For a horse to win a G1 after fall Monalee had was some going. Bad fall, and a kicking, won well last day, one for him.



GL - Thinks Davy is a better judge than he is.



PK - Likes PP, didn't like the prep. 1/2 thinks Monalee is ending up in the JLT, race falling apart. Not sure what's wrong with Black Corton, won Reynoldstown easily, and if he started his career in November, would be shorter. Could be a fluke, but jumps well, and always finds.



PM - Al Boum Photo & IO, will be split. One going JLT. Gave Monalee an easy lead, and that's why race finished like it did. Thinks set up for Monalee, and thinks he's more of a JLT horse. Over 3m, thinks it might be like AB last year. Not sure PP race was hard, hacked around, and PP could have won. DR gave him sympathetic ride. Al Boum Photo more room for improvement, than IO.







QMCC



TM - Altior?



PK - Yeah, most likely. Got to prove it, after first run out from break. Should be good enough, and wouldn't surprise him if Min got closer. Way they talk about Altior, he could be another Sprinter.



PM - Min better chaser, but not sure he'd turn it around with Altior, as he doesn't look any worse over fences. Min had better prep, but Altior looked good. Douvan is the one. Stepping him up day by day, and if he pleases them in a couple important bits of work this week will go. Thinks he's better than Altior. Holly is delighted with him, going without a run. Unenviable task, but if any horse can, Douvan could.



NM - Not much support for Douvan, and Altior return was a dream. Competitive race. Politologue solid e/w. If Min or Douvan show up, it's a race.



RF - Can't see Douvan coming back FTO. Quevega did it in the mares, but this isn't the mares.



PM - We managed it with Arctic Fire



RF - That's' not Altior, if you do this, greatest training performance ever. Altior impossible to oppose, not concerned about bounce. Min improving horse, but it's Altior.



GL - Altior should be 180 after Cheltenham, thinks he's underrated. Interesting to see who Ruby rides. Ricci said if Ruby doesn't ride Douvan, why we running him? Shocked if Altior beat.







Bumper







PM - I usually listen to Willie for my ride in the bumper, but I have more of a say than other races.



Blackbow best performance so far. Hollowgraphic he loves. .Ran great race last year as a 4yo, and won well lto. Tornado Flyer will improve for the run. Carefully Selected surprise package, and will be a strong stayer who will settle. No problem with atmosphere, in his opinion.



GL - Blackbow, thinks Rhinestone the danger. Last day was shortly after Irish CH, and quicker than Supasundae with same weight.



RF - Blackbow, form great, and sire is good. Hollowgraphic not for him as a bumper, but long term prospect. Know your score as an outsider at big price. Bought for 400k for pipe, and 33/1 overpriced.



NM - Nick Gifford's horse positive, but can't separate Hollow & Blackbow



PK - Doesn't have a big bet in this. Blackbow great rating, but sneaky feeling Rhinestone might turn it around.



PM - Giggs horse entered, not sure if it runs.







Weds Handicaps



GL - Can't wait to see DR on Mitchouka in FW and watching him ride it. Tiger Roll & Cause of Causes in Cross Country.



RF - Malaya in Fred Winter & Jers Girl in Coral Cup if she runs.



PM - Deal D'estruval surprised how well he ran over 2, appreciate step up.



NM - Act of Valour maybe in FW seen some bets for



PK - Le Breuil & Springtown Lake Coral Cup & Act of Valour in Fred Winter off 136 - PN won it 3/7







JLT



TM - What's going to run biggest problem



PM - IO or ABP - Possibly IO as ABP looked like staying on better last day.



RF - Looks like a consolation race, and Modus appeals. 2nd in Champ Bumper, and 2nd in CC behind Supasundae. 7/1 a fair price.



PK - FO horse with most talent, but not prep you want. No mean feat to give Benatar 7lbs, and if he can return to that, should go close. Backed Benatar, too. If Monalee turns up, wins.



GL - Finians most talent, but jumping. Modus run 4x and won 3/4 in small fields at odds on. IO right favourite, and would fancy Monalee if it showed up. Poorest of the 3 chases. Maybe IO.







TM - Un De Sceaux great.



PM - Loves the game. 2x Sprinter beat him he got back up for 2nd. Iron Horse. Ran away with Ruby in middle of race, and some of those leaps. Was extraordinary last year. Not a big horse, but attacks fences. More cut the better. Never been forgiven for being beaten by Sprinter, but won an Arkle & Ryanair.



PK - Loves Cue Card, wil have to back him, but can't see him winning. Sometimes you get on the wrong side of a horse, and stay there. That's me with UDS. Only thing is, the horses in behind last year are 1/22 since. Will take him on with BDF, with hope, more than anything. Top Notch could come back, but not sure if he's 'Top Notch'



GL - Agrees with PM that UDS doesn't get the respect he deserves. Fantastic horse. Pity we won't see Waiting Patiently, and thinks BDF be better with good ground.



RF - UDS underappreciated. Great battle to get back for 2nd against Sprinter. Can't see him beaten, and thinks price is value. Would love to see WP here, for the spectacle.



PM - 8/1 NRNB big price for Yorkhill, and the rail on his inside helps like Ruby says. Easier to ride at Cheltenham.







Mares Novice Hurdle



TM - Laurina



PM - She's like Let's Dance, but taller. In fantastic form, we think the world of her. If ground a little softer it will suit. Maria's Benefit has experience. What Laurina did at Fairyhouse looked exceptional.



PK - Handicapper rated Maria's Benefit 152, not sure the prices should be so wide apart. Prices are wrong with that big a diff. But MB had a setback.



GL - MB only missed a weeks work, should be ok.



RF - Laurina's form strong. If she's as good as they saying, she won't be beaten.







Stayers Hurdle



TM - Supasundae favourite here, are you with him?



PK - Didn't finish strongest lto, so you wonder. Backed La Bague a few weeks ago, but don't think running here now. Rumours about Bloom trying to get a box for the Thursday. If Penhill returns to that form.



PM - Penhill back in full training, and as fit as they can have him. Holly said he is her nap of the festival. Won so well last year, and Monalee 2nd. Know he handles track/trip, lots experience. Schooled well the other day. Not ideal, but have to play the cards how they're dealt. Wide open race. Bacardys overpriced, schooled him and he's slick over hurdles, even after going chasing. Race he won in Punchestown very good.



RF - Supasundae worthy favourite, and thinks Yanworth prob be favourite if he hadn't gone chasing. Thinks Supasundae is lairy, and running in ICH was right. Sam Spinner is vulnerable. Robbie can ride a race on SS, but needs to stay, thinks he will.



Talking about Apples beating SS, and PM thinks that AJ beat SS easier than it looked.





GL - Laying Sam Spinner, Supa Sundae 0/2 at the trip. Yanworth or Penhill for him. Penhill pushed wide in AB and still won.



PK - Coming round to Penhill. Thinks UKWIMH could be a silly price, but he's another 10 year old, and hasn't been as good this year.







Thursday Handicaps



GL - Mall Dini - KM Sqouateur doesn't jump well enough. Brown Advisory - Kings Socks 2nd to Footpad in a G1



RF - Mall Dini - KM & Sort It Out - Pertemps



PK - Who Dares Wins - Pertemps. Brown Advisory - Mister Whittaker better on good ground



PM - Nothing in KM or Pertemps. Pleasant Company in Brown Adv, might go to National. Patricks Park up 10lbs, and will run where he can get in.







Triumph Hurdle



PM - This race has changed, French breds have changed it. Lots of proper NH bred horses. Mr Adjudicator has best form. Good race, and told time was good, w/e that means. Farclas was 2nd to Espoir when he was on form. Jumped a bit sticky early, but better with hood off. Stormy Ireland is pandoras box, hopes timeform right. Very small, and doesn't do as much at home. Fabulous jumper, and the plan wasn't that in Fairyhouse, but let her roll on. Wasn't 100% for Leopardstown, train her better at home. Great form now. Saldier is a chasing horse for future, and very good flat form. Can't wait to see him over a fence.



NM - Apples Shakira unbeaten in 4, and NH singing her praises. Impressed with Redicean.



PK - AS been favourite, but not sure it will like it if ground turns up fast. Worried about Redicean, after first 2. Laid him everything last time, and watched him run like that. Farclas getting buried will help him, he thinks. Battled when they went last few furlongs. Both good, but fancies Farclas on better ground.



RF - Take on AS, looks like wants soft, but agrees with PK. Won't know which is best form. Redicean looked most impressive, and last time at Kempton looked vg. No bet, but Redicean the one.



GL - Very hard race, lots unbeaten. Redicean looked like diff horse lto. AS, on ground doesn't want better, NH thinks she does. Stormy prob make running, very fast race. AS if she's close enough will def finish up hill.



Talk about Stormy winning time being so good. RF says take it with pinch of salt, and GL agrees, but says it was very good.







Albert Bartlett



PM - Fabulous Saga obvious one, and race has strong profile for horses with experience, which he has. Forgive last run, too bad to be true. DDG fascinating horse, but same owner as FS. Next Destination was quite keen the last day, and you need to settle. Ballyward is there, would race behind the bridle, not enough experience maybe. Real Steel another one, who thinks better going over a trip. PT said same thing after he won over 2m.



PK - Santini only 3 runs, need exp. Doesn't ruin horses, but inexp get found out. 62 non finishers. For that reason Calett Mad, who he can't believe is 25/1 still. Going well in NH Chase before his 5th birthday. Bolted up in Pertemps trial. Nick Luck said NTD told him Calett Mad one horse that is thriving.



RF - Chef Des Obeaux he likes, and the last time a winner of this hadn't run over 3m was Bobs Worth. CDO ticks box, out and out stayer.



GL - CDO interesting if it comes up soft. Another Haydock merchant. If ground is good fancy Santini. DDG can't see him staying if you watch end of race with ND. Soft ground CDO or Chriss Dream.







Gold Cup



RF - In Might Bite camp, and Sizing John. Thinks it's between those 2. Great run destroying Djakadam, and out too quick lto. Might Bite is the up and coming horse. To do what he did in RSA, and still get up the hill after what he did. NDB knows what's coming, and if it wasn't for that quirk he'd be shorter. NR shouldn't be good enough. Our Duke improving but still a way. KV fallen or nearly fallen twice.



PM - SJ overpriced. KV had the injury, but has an engine, and it's an ask with his jumping. Inexperienced, and a race like this. Total Recall, thinks his form with Whisper puts him a way behind, but he's improving. Djakadam is overpriced, he thinks. Race always throws up horses that place year after year. Disappointed in Leopardstown, maybe ride him diff.



PK - Wide open. MB might be most talented, but wandered around 3/4 times at Cheltenham. SJ prob the best if he comes back. Likes young improving profile, and Road To Respect has that. Bachasson at a massive price, could be very talented. Skipped round AB, but didn't get home as a 5yo. Big ask, but big price.



PM - Bachasson improved a lot, but has heart and scope to jump. He's a young protential improver.



GL - Small e/w on Bachasson @ 50/1. Might Bite is actually 9, and should be 7/7 without Kempton. New Course is 50yards further in, so won't know about gate. NDB went too soon in KG, kicking before the bend. Idles a lot. Sizing John massive chance. Can't believe Native River is 5/1, will place lay him. Needs soft ground.



PK - Road to Respect

PM - Might Bite

NM - Our Duke

RF - Might Bite

GL - Sizing John







Friday Handicaps



GL - Hunters Call in the County Hurdle. Burning Ambition for Foxhunters 5/7 and young improver. Jamie Codd riding.



RF - Burning Ambition agreed. County Hurdle - Burbank & Patricks Park in Grand Annual.



PM - Carter McKay & Sandsend in M.Pipe.



PK - Ivanovich Gorbatov in County and thinks Hunters Call form looks fantastic. Deal D'Estruval & Des Bieffes with James Bowen in M. Pipe. Diego Du Charmil in the Grand Annual



PM - Whiskey Sour is in Supreme/County couldn't enter him in eurovision. Wants good ground.



'Very Willie Answer' from panel.



Charity Bets



PK - Coo Star Sivola in Ultima

PM - Footpad in Arkle

GL - Blackbow in Bumper

RF - Know The Score in Bumper

NM - Saint Calvados in Arkle
 
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Was at the Cartmel preview evening tonight. The naps of the panel were:

Brian Hughes - Cloudy Dream (Ryanair)
James Moffatt - Redician (Triumph)
Marten Julian - Dolos (Grand Annual)

An interesting aside was Marten handing out sheets with the seven favourites Getabird, Footpad, B D’Air, Apple’s Jade, Samcro and Laurina and asking the audience to write down if they will win or not. The results strongest to weakest favourite were as follows:

Buveur D’Air
Apple’s Jade
Altior
Samcro
Laurina
Footpad
Getabird
 
Was at the Cartmel preview evening tonight. The naps of the panel were:

Brian Hughes - Cloudy Dream (Ryanair)
James Moffatt - Redician (Triumph)
Marten Julian - Dolos (Grand Annual)

An interesting aside was Marten handing out sheets with the seven favourites Getabird, Footpad, B D’Air, Apple’s Jade, Samcro and Laurina and asking the audience to write down if they will win or not. The results strongest to weakest favourite were as follows:

Buveur D’Air
Apple’s Jade
Altior
Samcro
Laurina
Footpad
Getabird

1. AJ
2. BVD
3. Laurina
4. Altior
5. Samcro
6. Footpad
7. Getabird

If I was doing that...
 
Can't have everyone agreeing

1 Buveur D'Air - Barry was so confident he napped it!
2 Laurina
3 Samcro
4 Altior
5 Apple's Jade
6 Footpad
7 Getabird
 
Gordon Elliott stable tour:
Apples Jade-
She goes for the Mares’ Hurdle and I couldn’t be happier with her. She’ll do one more bit of work tomorrow morning and that’ll be her pretty much ready to go. She’s been easier to train this season. She just seems more mature and strong and her form on the track seems better than ever. I don’t think going there fresh will be a problem for her.

Bless the wings:
Trainer Says:
He will run in the cross-country chase and Davy Russell will ride him.

Blow by blow:
He’ll go for the Martin Pipe. He won well last time in first-time blinkers and that was probably the first time he’s shown his true form since he won the Grade 1 bumper at Punchestown. I’d say a combination of the less testing ground and blinkers were a help to him.

Cause of causes;
Trainer Says:
He goes to the cross-country race. It looks a good opportunity for him. He’s in very good form at home and we couldn’t be happier with him. He doesn’t do anything fancy at home, but he always seems to come alive at Cheltenham. Jamie Codd will ride him.

De plotting shed:
He goes for the novices’ handicap chase and probably looks like he’s well enough handicapped. I’d like to think the longer trip and better ground will help him. With a bit of luck, he won’t be far away.

Dounikos:
He goes for the RSA Chase. It’s looks a competitive renewal, but he jumps, stays and gallops and that’s what you need to win an RSA. I think stepping up to the RSA trip will be the making of him.

Fagan:
He’ll run in the National Hunt Chase. He hasn’t been an easy horse to train, but if you go back to his Albert Bartlett form he’d have a fair chance in this and he has a good record when fresh. He’ll be ridden by Barry O’Neill.

Farclas:
He’s in good form and will run in the Triumph Hurdle. We’re going to put a tongue tie on him for the first time there. He doesn’t have a breathing problem, but I think it might help him a bit. I think he’s improving with every run and while he’ll need to improve again, I don’t think there’s any more than a good jump between the best of the Irish juvenile hurdlers. Jack Kennedy will ride him.

Felix Desjy:
He runs in the Champion Bumper. I think he’s a good horse and Davy Russell will ride him. I didn’t think I needed to do too much more with him and wasn’t sure whether to send him here, but the lads gave me the nod to send one over for it and I thought he was the best candidate.

Flawless escape:
He’ll run in the Martin Pipe. I thought he ran very well in his first handicap at Leopardstown and he ticks a lot of the boxes for this race. We have a few riders booked already and we’re likely to have four runners in the race, but the specifics of who rides what won’t be sorted out until closer to the time.

Glenloe:
He goes for the Pertemps Final. It’s a competitive race, but he’s in very good form. The one worry would be if it came up a bit quick, but it looks like there’s no real chance of that happening.

Jury Duty:
He goes for the National Hunt Chase and Jamie Codd will ride. He stays three miles, but four miles will be a question he has to answer on the day. He has a good bit of class, so if he gets home he must have a fair chance.

Mengli Khan:
He goes for the Supreme Novices’ Hurdle and the drier the ground, the better his chance. It’s probably hard to see him reversing form with Getabird, but he’s in very good form. I’m just not sure he gave his running at Punchestown last time, as the third and fourth horses were a bit closer to him than I expected.

Mitchouka:
He goes for the Fred Winter and is really well. I can see him travelling very well, but whether he gets up the hill is the question I have. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s my gut feeling.

Monbeg notorious:
He won’t travel and will wait for the Irish Grand National.

Mossback:
He’ll run in the National Hunt Chase and Lisa O’Neill will ride him.

Outlander:
He’ll take his chance in the Gold Cup and it looks an open race. He had surgery for a kissing spine before he started back this season and I’ve been very happy with his performances this season. He ran bad in the race last season, but his jumping was terrible on the day and that was the case again at Punchestown after that, so maybe the issue with his back was to blame.

Samcro:
He goes for the Ballymore. If it came up really heavy, you never know, but the Ballymore is very much the plan as of now. I’d imagine we’ll give him a straightforward, jump him off in fourth or fifth and ride him like the best horse in the race.

Shattered love:
She goes for the JLT. She jumps and gallops and I thought this might be a weaker option than the RSA for her. She’s nice and straightforward, so we can jump her off good and handy there and make use of her jumping and stamina. She’d had a few runs leading up to Christmas, so we decided to train her for here after that rather than give her a run in between. Another part of that is that I want to have some of these horses still in top form for the spring festivals in Ireland too. The last couple of seasons we’ve found ourselves running a bit low on ammunition for those meetings, so we think giving some of them an easier time in the middle part of the season might pay off later.

Sire du berlais:
He’ll go for the Martin Pipe and is on good form. He’ll galloped through the line very well last time and I really liked his run.

Squouateur:
He’ll run in the Kim Muir and Jamie Codd will ride him. Based on his run in the Paddy Power he has a good chance and even looking at his run at Cheltenham last year up until he fell would give you in encouragement.

Tiger roll:
He goes for the cross country and Keith Donoghue will ride him. He had a kissing spine surgery before he came back this season and he’s another that seems to come alive at Cheltenham. We brought him over to school over these obstacles since his last run and I was delighted with him over there. We don’t like to leave any stone unturned if we can at all and that is why we do things like that. He’s absolutely flying at home and I think he’ll run very well.
 
Yep, agree with that.
Giggs are control freaks, they pay the bill and demand they own the decisions, there was always more to the shift from Mullins to Elliotts than a fiver a month training fees !

I still think Ricci calls some of the shots, every horse he owns is with the yard and the power therefore is with the owner, if Ricci threatened to move his horses I'm not sure what would happen to the yard given the vacant boxes left behind by Giggs.
Maybe archie knows how full the yard is....

Full with a waiting list including the 30 new boxes that were built last year ie after Giggi's departure.
 
Yep, agree with that.
Giggs are control freaks, they pay the bill and demand they own the decisions, there was always more to the shift from Mullins to Elliotts than a fiver a month training fees !

I still think Ricci calls some of the shots, every horse he owns is with the yard and the power therefore is with the owner, if Ricci threatened to move his horses I'm not sure what would happen to the yard given the vacant boxes left behind by Giggs.
Maybe archie knows how full the yard is....

£5 per month increase. Is way of the mark. He raised by 10%

Training fees are
usually daily. ( i believe his basic fees were £50 A DAY. now £55. = total 66,000 a month for 40 horses just for basic rate)


And look at the ammount of horses they had. (40) They also wanted a deal on all the horses combined like they have at other yards.rather than having to pay individually.
Mullins in fairness to him and his staff. Insisted all owners pay the same set fee. And all based on individual horses no matter the ammount.
 
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Hi I’m new to this site, just wondered if anyone can help. I missed the Sean Graham preview night held in Belfast and really wanted to watch it. Has anyone got a link so I can watch it? I have looked myself but can’t find it anywhere, thanks