Novice Hurdlers 2027

[Runragged]

Only reason I'd see turners happening is if his jumping doesn't improve.

Be surprised if he is the best Mullins has at 2m. Bred to see a trip, hurdling not great and sat a long way off the pace there. Some tell tale signs there for a potential Turners horse. Plotted up to win an Ebor also so no surprise they are making hay when the horse is hard fit. Royal Bond next?

 

[Eggs]

Noel Meade’s five-year-old The Mourne Rambler, who signed off last term with a Grade 1 second at the Punchestown Festival at the end of April, was sent off the 1/4 favourite for the Cavan Developments Supporting St Marys GAA Maiden Hurdle and got the job done by half a length from 7/1 shot Whisky Lads.

Winning rider Sam Ewing said on Racing TV: “I was very happy with him, I just rode him with plenty of room and he’s jumped super, I was really happy with his jumping.

“He was always going to win, I felt everywhere, but he just does enough and he keeps a little bit for himself. I always felt I had plenty left and I think he’ll take a big step forward too.”

 

[Lobos]

His jumping was completely opposite to Love Me Tender. I do fancy him more for Turners but wouldn't give up on him going Supreme especially if it came up a Soft ground Fez.

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

Paddy Power go 6/1

What the actual fuck

 

[Quevega]

Be surprised if he is the best Mullins has at 2m. Bred to see a trip, hurdling not great and sat a long way off the pace there. Some tell tale signs there for a potential Turners horse. Plotted up to win an Ebor also so no surprise they are making hay when the horse is hard fit. Royal Bond next?

plenty of 25-1 available for turners on exchange

 

[Quevega]

I think the standard of maidens was probably different but I'd much rather back Minella Machine for the turners than Mourne Rambler at the prices.
Doubt Henry was arsed about the bumpers last season.
Very Nicely bred also.

 

[Eggs]

A relieved-looking Meade said: "It does make the blood pump up a little bit when you have a fella like him!

"I've been thinking all along that he'd probably need further than two miles because of his bumper runs. Even in Cheltenham last year, halfway down he fell asleep and he had to be rousted up to get going before the stiff finish played to his hands. In Punchestown he got a little bit lost before he got going again.

"I was thinking two and a half would suit him better but it was a lovely place to start. I was obviously worried about the ground a bit but it's such a lovely track and so well looked after.

"Anyway, everything worked out and he won. He jumped brilliant, other than the last, which was great. Sam agreed with me after the race that two and a half would suit him better. He raced very lazy, but we're very happy.

"You would imagine the Royal Bond is probably the fastest two miles around so I'd have thought the centre-point for the winter would be back here for the two and a half and we'll hopefully get one in between times."

 

[Lobos]

Some cracking Novices on show today

 

[Prestbury]

I think the standard of maidens was probably different but I'd much rather back Minella Machine for the turners than Mourne Rambler at the prices.
Doubt Henry was arsed about the bumpers last season.
Very Nicely bred also.

Would you be concerned about MM stepping up to the Albert Bartlett? In the past 4 years Henry has run 4 horses in this race - Fruit De Mer (1st), Chigorin (3rd) and Hiddenvalleylake (1st) all went to the Bartlettt (Mahons Way (1st) didn't go to Cheltenham). On top of that back in 2020 the race was won by Vanillier with Stattler back in 3rd and these went on to finish 1st/4th in the Bartlett.

 

[Quevega]

Would you be concerned about MM stepping up to the Albert Bartlett? In the past 4 years Henry has run 4 horses in this race - Fruit De Mer (1st), Chigorin (3rd) and Hiddenvalleylake (1st) all went to the Bartlettt (Mahons Way (1st) didn't go to Cheltenham). On top of that back in 2020 the race was won by Vanillier with Stattler back in 3rd and these went on to finish 1st/4th in the Bartlett.

In short. Yes
Although he looked and is bred to have more gears.
When asked after the last he cruised away in the style of something with more class.
However, he may well have been running against rubbish.
Don't think many of his others from this race went to the race he's mentioned for this one as a possible

 

[Quevega]

“He did it really nicely. He's a horse we like at home and you're always hoping that they'll go and do something like that,” said de Bromhead.

“Obviously when Declan's horse fell it made it a bit easier. It was a lovely start for him.

“I think there is a novice hurdle in Navan in mid-December, off the top of my head, but I haven't discussed it with anyone so I don't know yet.

“That would seem like a good stepping stone. I think Slade Steel did something similar to that.”

When asked if the Grade 1 here in January could be a target he added:- “Possibly, we'll take it one step at a time. He's a nice horse and we're delighted for Robcour.

“He's a fine big horse, he jumped well bar the last. He'd be higher up the pecking order in the yard.”

 

[Lobos]

LMT supported into 12's for Turners as well

 

[riccirich]

Only thing I done after mourne ramblers race was check the exchange to see if there was anything big available for the bartlett, but not in their market.

I dont see why you'd be rushing to back him for a turners off the back of today. If you think he looks a mile off winning a supreme, then you shouldnt be that interested for the turners at his current prices either. Both races usually require a touch of class to win, and I didnt see that today. If he'd been pushed to 33s maybe I'd have backed him, but at 25s I left him.

He can improve of course like they all could, but my first thought was check for a bartlett price, as he just looks a fairly uncomplicated sort that will keep trying, but probably won't have the class to win a supreme/turners.

 

[Prestbury]

“He did it really nicely. He's a horse we like at home and you're always hoping that they'll go and do something like that,” said de Bromhead.

“Obviously when Declan's horse fell it made it a bit easier. It was a lovely start for him.

“I think there is a novice hurdle in Navan in mid-December, off the top of my head, but I haven't discussed it with anyone so I don't know yet.

“That would seem like a good stepping stone. I think Slade Steel did something similar to that.”

When asked if the Grade 1 here in January could be a target he added:- “Possibly, we'll take it one step at a time. He's a nice horse and we're delighted for Robcour.

“He's a fine big horse, he jumped well bar the last. He'd be higher up the pecking order in the yard.”

Assume he's talking about the Grade 2 novice hurdle. He won it with Slade Steel in 2023 (although Slade Steel won the 2m maiden hurdle on todays card). Other recent winners were Ginto (2022 went AB), The Yellow Clay (2024 went Turners) and Doctor Steinberg (2025 went AB).

Two of his 3 winners of today's race, Mahons Way and Hiddenvalley Lake went to the Gr3 novice at Cork over 3m a few days before the Navan Grade 2 (over 2.5m) so the entries for these two races should be informative. His other winner of today's race, Fruit De Mer, went directly to Naas for the Lawlors.

 

[Quevega]

Assume he's talking about the Grade 2 novice hurdle. He won it with Slade Steel in 2023 (although Slade Steel won the 2m maiden hurdle on todays card). Other recent winners were Ginto (2022 went AB), The Yellow Clay (2024 went Turners) and Doctor Steinberg (2025 went AB).

Two of his 3 winners of today's race, Mahons Way and Hiddenvalley Lake went to the Gr3 novice at Cork over 3m a few days before the Navan Grade 2 (over 2.5m) so the entries for these two races should be informative. His other winner of today's race, Fruit De Mer, went directly to Naas for the Lawlors.

Yep I know.
Mixed bag that Grade 2 in terms of end destination.
But I'm far more inclined to go on what I see and not past races/renewals in any case.

 

[Yosser]

Won't be on many radars but Clondaw Park has an entry later in the week for Harry Derham. He was very keen on her last season but said she was still a big baby. Very interested to see how she fares this season after another year of growing. 5 going on 6 so a nice age for those Mares Novice Hurdles. Whether good enough for Cheltenham or not I don't know but I will be watching with interest if she gets declared

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Good to see Minella Machine do it nicely today, even if a year too late for my 'horses to follow'

Backed him for the Supreme only personally and nothing else.

 

[Lobos]

Good to see Minella Machine do it nicely today, even if a year too late for my 'horses to follow'

Backed him for the Supreme only personally and nothing else.

Have just finished watching all the Racing back today and He impressed me the most. Dare I say it he reminded me of Bob Ollinger. Can see him going for Turners on decent ground or drop back to Supreme if it were to turn up Soft. Henry said he's up there at the top of the pile which will do for me.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Have just finished watching all the Racing back today and He impressed me the most. Dare I say it he reminded me of Bob Ollinger. Can see him going for Turners on decent ground or drop back to Supreme if it were to turn up Soft. Henry said he's up there at the top of the pile which will do for me.

I just think from his bumper runs he lacked the same gears Bob had.

Pacey enough without having that kick that is usually required in a Turners.

Rock and hard place with him though. Can't decide if he's a Bartlett type or Supreme type. Breeding doesn't help a whole heap as a bit of a mixed bag.

 

[Yosser]

Good to see Minella Machine do it nicely today, even if a year too late for my 'horses to follow'

Backed him for the Supreme only personally and nothing else.

Same here but only because the Supreme was the only one i could get on him. I will definitely cover the Turners now he is priced up. He was in the 'Don't forget about me' list with the likes of Sparkling Wit etc. He has a bright future whichever way he goes.