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2026 Novice Hurdlers

MP fav again now for Turners. Think Q will be proved right and he'll be pulled tomorrow.
 
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Lobos said:
MP fav again now for Turners. Think Q will be proved right and he'll be pulled tomorrow.
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Would be unlike Mullins though no ?
Usually leaves them in everything until actual decs…
 
In saying that though, there's a few fair numbers waiting to back him at 11s and 12s

128 @ 11s
260 @ 12s
 
Istabraq said:
Would be unlike Mullins though no ?
Usually leaves them in everything until actual decs…
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JP though. Does he usually give things away at 6 day decs.

They're usually pretty selective with the early entries. Like Fact to File...
 
Benjy23 said:
JP though. Does he usually give things away at 6 day decs.

They're usually pretty selective with the early entries. Like Fact to File...
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Yeah the logistics may well be different with JP but there’s always uncertainty on ground this far out, just makes no sense pulling a horse from the shorter race in case there’s a deluge next week and ground goes deep again…
 
Interesting that The Reverend's price is holding firm around 28 on the Exchange, despite not getting a mention in Willie's stable tour yesterday.
 
TonyGalopin said:
Interesting that The Reverend's price is holding firm around 28 on the Exchange, despite not getting a mention in Willie's stable tour yesterday.
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Yeah I get the feeling he was penciled in early for the supreme despite the unfortunate unseat. If they'd like Cobden to have another go it would be this race. No Nicholls horse in the Supreme and he has a leading fancy in the Turners.

Sober on the other hand... looking like he might go the other way.
 
darlojim said:
In saying that though, there's a few fair numbers waiting to back him at 11s and 12s

128 @ 11s
260 @ 12s
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Yeah its not really important which race he's shorter for, as he'd be shorter in the turners if he ran in it anyway than he would be in the supreme.

His current price in both races is roughly double what his betfair sp would likely be, so the market still has it pretty much 50/50 at the moment imo.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Could you not argue this for every novice, until they ALL meet at the festival?



FWIW, and I could be wrong here, I don't think the Irish 2 milers are up to much this season, and a big possibility El Cairos is the best of them without being given the chance to properly prove it. I certainly think he's the quickest, he just needs to jump better.
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I was asking myself the same question last night

Who has the strongest novices this season - Ireland or Britain and then who’s the best out of them

I think El Cairos will prove to be the best, he’s yet to prove it though. And Old Park Star will turn out to the the best in GB

The concern I have about the GB lot is how poor we’ve been in previous year across the novice hurdles. Yeah, we had the Con Hill / Jonbon year and The New Lion last season… but… most season the GB lot get battered

I’m concerned about old park star, I think he’s more of a Sprinter Sacre than a Con Hill - it’s a nice comparison, but what I mean by that is, I think he’ll be much better over a fence and may struggle in a supreme
El Cairos reminds me of Labaik, talented but hasn’t been able to show it yet

Tough race
 
opatcho said:
I’m concerned about old park star, I think he’s more of a Sprinter Sacre than a Con Hill - it’s a nice comparison, but what I mean by that is, I think he’ll be much better over a fence and may struggle in a supreme
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Henderson has shown 3 times in the last 10 years that, when he has a live one, he can deliver in this race. 2 of them became elite chasers.
 
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ComplyOrDie said:
Yeah, I'm not really sure why he has stated 2013 when it doesn't tally up with when the race changed to 2m, alternatively he could have included 2m-2m2f in it.

I only stuck it up to be non-bias in my opinion, as I think graded form in general matters more so than just G1 form, which was the original post by @Killiney

Personally I think Talk The Talk is only being spoken of so highly because there is nothing else from Ireland that has looked useful over 2m, or at least hasn't be tried in a higher grade yet, El Cairos & Mighty Park, for example.

It's telling that the horses he has looked like beating or beaten are all heading up in trip even though they would not look to have too much ground to make up!
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archie said:
Henderson has shown 3 times in the last 10 years that, when he has a live one, he can deliver in this race. 2 of them became elite chasers.
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Yeah… but I just don’t like how tame he was over bumpers

different trainer etc since, just don’t know. OPS could make this field look silly, but there’s something about him

I did say the same about Con Hill, and was totally wrong at the time … so lol
 
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