2026 Martin Pipe Conditionals Handicap Hurdle

[Benjy23]

apprentices and conditionals can ride on the county

Yea I get that. But somewhat levels the playing field in the Pipe.

 

[Istabraq]

I know Dan Skelton believes Tristan Durrell is a massively improved jockey this season, if 129 is enough to get A Pai De Nom in the M Pipe then he'd look to have a big chance as @Faugheen_Machine has been touting, however if Harry thinks he would have a great chance I assume he'd be pushing to get the horse in the old Coral Cup, unless I've missed it the yard don't look to have any obvious chance there...

 

[Durham Edition]

I know Dan Skelton believes Tristan Durrell is a massively improved jockey this season, if 129 is enough to get A Pai De Nom in the M Pipe then he'd look to have a big chance as @Faugheen_Machine has been touting, however if Harry thinks he would have a great chance I assume he'd be pushing to get the horse in the old Coral Cup, unless I've missed it the yard don't look to have any obvious chance there...

I might be wrong but I'm sure I seen Nurse Susan mentioned for the Coral Cup, might not be good enough but I think she was being aimed there.

 

[CJW]

A few shouts for The Passing Wife for this today on videos. 365 boosted to 20s if anyone is interested.

 

[Ellisgittings]

Been mentioned by Gordy but a joke this race requires 5 hurdle runs these days. It should be made a novice handicap

 

[Rooster Booster]

Been mentioned by Gordy but a joke this race requires 5 hurdle runs these days. It should be made a novice handicap

I’m not sure any track let alone the host of the most famous racing festival in the land would welcome the potential pr disaster resulting from creating a race that purposefully married the most inexperienced horses with the most inexperienced jockeys. If you were Cheltenham you’d be looking in your rear view mirror the whole time hoping and praying . Can’t see it happening personally.

 

[Eggs]

….looking at @Saxon Warrior race planner, there’s actually a 2m 5f Novice Hd next Thursday at Thurles that has recently produced winners and placed horses in this, worth keeping an eye out for decs, especially any of Elliott’s.

 

[Joeski29]

Elliot mentioned 4 horses on his RP tour as possibles for this, 3 have qualified, the 4th one, Open Secret, needs one more run to qualify so maybe get an entry in this

 

[Killiney]

Bet365 have The Passing Wife on a boost today 20/1 (ap)

 

[Ellisgittings]

I’m not sure any track let alone the host of the most famous racing festival in the land would welcome the potential pr disaster resulting from creating a race that purposefully married the most inexperienced horses with the most inexperienced jockeys. If you were Cheltenham you’d be looking in your rear view mirror the whole time hoping and praying . Can’t see it happening personally.

It was basically a novice handicap beforehand anyway? I wouldn't have wanted to be held up in it, but it was mostly fine. Conditionals ride constantly and most runners have had 3/4 runs to qualify for it beforehand, so plenty experienced enough.

It's just stupid ruining what was the best handicap at the festival (imo) that has produced some great winners to have essentially a 0-145 version of the coral cup, which might not even fill itself anyway nowadays

 

[Exar Essay]

I think Kel Histoire (131 IRE) is JP's only entry in the Pipe. If that is the case, then the 33/1 NRNB looks a no brainer. He doesn't run, you get your money back. He does, he's likely to be a single figure price given the silks. He was on my radar for the Coral Cup initially and I think a mark of around 135 or less would see him bang there.

 

[Eggs]

I think Kel Histoire (131 IRE) is JP's only entry in the Pipe. If that is the case, then the 33/1 NRNB looks a no brainer. He doesn't run, you get your money back. He does, he's likely to be a single figure price given the silks. He was on my radar for the Coral Cup initially and I think a mark of around 135 or less would see him bang there.

….great spot, cut to 12-1

 

[Eggs]

…..hopefully I’ve captured the 82 entries in post #2, not the easiest cut and paste but let me know of any errors.

 

[Eggs]

…..trend analysis updated in post #1.

 

[Eggs]

…..a reminder that @Saxon Warrior final planner race of the season takes place tomorrow and it’s one that has had an impact on the Martin Pipe.

Twice in recent times Gordon Elliott has used tomorrow’s 2m 5f race at Thurles as a stepping stone to winning the MP. He runs two but given his recent Stable Tour comment, the aim is to get Open Secret qualified for MP. His other runner, Timeless Treaty has MP & Coral Cup entries.

A race to watch with a bit of interest.

 

[Wayward Lad]

…..a reminder that @Saxon Warrior final planner race of the season takes place tomorrow and it’s one that has had an impact on the Martin Pipe.

Twice in recent times Gordon Elliott has used tomorrow’s 2m 5f race at Thurles as a stepping stone to winning the MP. He runs two but given his recent Stable Tour comment, the aim is to get Open Secret qualified for MP. His other runner, Timeless Treaty has MP & Coral Cup entries.

A race to watch with a bit of interest.

Thanks for the prompt Eggs, had a bit of the 25’s NRNB Open Secret with Betfred this morning on their machines

Pulled my cap down and paid with cash readies, so hopefully incognito!

 

[The Fellow]

Open Secret is a NR tomorrow

 

[jrjr]

…..a reminder that @Saxon Warrior final planner race of the season takes place tomorrow and it’s one that has had an impact on the Martin Pipe.

Twice in recent times Gordon Elliott has used tomorrow’s 2m 5f race at Thurles as a stepping stone to winning the MP. He runs two but given his recent Stable Tour comment, the aim is to get Open Secret qualified for MP. His other runner, Timeless Treaty has MP & Coral Cup entries.

A race to watch with a bit of interest.

Definitely of interest. Elliot name dropped four for the Pipe in stable tour, with the caveat it was early days.

Son of Anarchy not entered
He Can’t Dance
Wendrock entered in Pertemps qualifier Sunday
Open Secret

OS off 128 ire, given 131 for Sedgefield race he was also entered in, so, barring an unlikely bolt up, that’ll be his festival rating.

Wendigo entry could be taken as stable confidence in OS.

 

[jrjr]

Open Secret is a NR tomorrow

At Thurles?

 

[The Fellow]

does Open Secret not require another run for the MP race ?