Can someone put up a summary of the OJA thoughts on juveniles please...
Hopefully mine has dropped on the mat whilst I am sat here in the canteen slurping my coffee. Nice to know that about Karak De Faust about only coming out in the spring. I had that one down in the bumper section. Maybe more one for the Irish bumpers after Cheltenham.The following are in the top 40 prospects:
In My Teens
Manlaga
Narciso Has
Proactif
High praise for all them 4
bit on unraced Ricci Juve ...
KARAK DE FAUST (FR) 3 b f Zarak (FR) – Katkobella (FR) From the family of Grade 1 winner Kotkikova, Willie (Mullins) and Harold (Kirk) were keen on her at the Goffs Arkle Sale in June. She possesses a real National Hunt pedigree and, all being well, she will make her debut in a bumper in the spring.
Others for Rich..
MANITA (FR) 3 gr f Moises Has (FR) – Mastermambo (IRE) Another daughter of Moises Has, she is a fine looking filly. Previously trained by Yannick Fouin, who supplied us with Lossiemouth and Min, she finished runner-up in a conditions hurdle at Auteuil in March. It looked a strong contest with the winner (Manlaga) being subsequently bought by J.P.(McManus) and has joined Nicky Henderson. She is hopefully one to look forward to in juvenile hurdles.
MADNESS D’ELLE (FR) 3 b g Moises Has (FR) – Voulay (FR) One of two three year olds we have acquired from France by Moises Has, he finished third on his hurdles debut at Auteuil in May when trained by Daniela Mele. Beaten around six lengths, the form looks solid with the winner (Shannon Maestro) finishing runner-up in a Listed event next time. I would imagine Willie (Mullins) will look to run him in a juvenile hurdle around Christmas time.
The FR revolution section with James Reveley mentions most the juves bought
Bertutea, Dschingis desire, Blue Seabhac, Gold Cast, Kai Lung, Kaldoun des rocs, Limier d'arthel, Macao, Macktoad, Madness d'elle, Mange tout, Majolique, Manita, Manoir de mirande, Marco du seuil, Mille et une vies, milpat, mino des mottes, mode avion, mont star, nightmare has, precious man, parchment, pourquoi pas papa, senator, shinago theysss, thewoodcorner, zekret
Good man, thanks JimThe following are in the top 40 prospects:
In My Teens
Manlaga
Narciso Has
Proactif
High praise for all them 4
bit on unraced Ricci Juve ...
KARAK DE FAUST (FR) 3 b f Zarak (FR) – Katkobella (FR) From the family of Grade 1 winner Kotkikova, Willie (Mullins) and Harold (Kirk) were keen on her at the Goffs Arkle Sale in June. She possesses a real National Hunt pedigree and, all being well, she will make her debut in a bumper in the spring.
Others for Rich..
MANITA (FR) 3 gr f Moises Has (FR) – Mastermambo (IRE) Another daughter of Moises Has, she is a fine looking filly. Previously trained by Yannick Fouin, who supplied us with Lossiemouth and Min, she finished runner-up in a conditions hurdle at Auteuil in March. It looked a strong contest with the winner (Manlaga) being subsequently bought by J.P.(McManus) and has joined Nicky Henderson. She is hopefully one to look forward to in juvenile hurdles.
MADNESS D’ELLE (FR) 3 b g Moises Has (FR) – Voulay (FR) One of two three year olds we have acquired from France by Moises Has, he finished third on his hurdles debut at Auteuil in May when trained by Daniela Mele. Beaten around six lengths, the form looks solid with the winner (Shannon Maestro) finishing runner-up in a Listed event next time. I would imagine Willie (Mullins) will look to run him in a juvenile hurdle around Christmas time.
The FR revolution section with James Reveley mentions most the juves bought
Bertutea, Dschingis desire, Blue Seabhac, Gold Cast, Kai Lung, Kaldoun des rocs, Limier d'arthel, Macao, Macktoad, Madness d'elle, Mange tout, Majolique, Manita, Manoir de mirande, Marco du seuil, Mille et une vies, milpat, mino des mottes, mode avion, mont star, nightmare has, precious man, parchment, pourquoi pas papa, senator, shinago theysss, thewoodcorner, zekret
Good man, thanks Jim
Thanks again.If you want any quotes off any in particular give us a DM![]()
Yeah tried to DM but says restrictedThanks again.
Look like the DM feature for me has disappeared, maybe when the update took place ?
I've already backed the horse but it would be good to see what is said about Manlaga - much appreciated.
@Kevloaf anyone else mentioned this ?
Not trying to be a party pooper here guys but just watch posting the book on the open forum![]()
I only mentioned it as this has come up before and I’m pretty sure Kev et al said we shouldn’t be posting or sharing stuff like this that’s a bought service, if I’m wrong apologies.If someone has an issue with it I'm sure they'll voice their concerns.
Otherwise don't see the problem myself, unless people who bought it don't want others getting it for free?
If anyone doesn't have it, give us a
According to the below they have bought Prix Pride of Kildare winner Macho Man, 3yo.As far as I'm aware, I believe its health related
Yeah back in the game nowAccording to the below they have bought Prix Pride of Kildare winner Macho Man, 3yo.
If someone has an issue with it I'm sure they'll voice their concerns.
Otherwise don't see the problem myself, unless people who bought it don't want others getting it for free?
If anyone doesn't have it, give us a shout
I get what your saying, its only a couple quotes ive shared on here, not the end of the world.The book is about £10. I would imagine the author puts in a lot of effort and research. If we want him to keep producing the book then it’s probably best that people buy it. I’m not looking for a big debate but FWIW I think most people can afford £10.
....and of course a good substitute for toilet paper should it not prove very good.....lolPosts on this forum May drive custom for the publication. I always purchase and stack by the toilet. Often they throw up a few winners for the festival in a couple of years time.
As posted in my Diary,
Charme De Faust - Triumph Hurdle - 50/1
Reasoning:
Given a very educational ride through the Prix Finot, this Goliath Du Berlais filly settled at the back of the field throughout the majority of the race and was steady enough at her hurdles whilst edging out a touch right but warmed up nicely as they went out on their final circuit. Down the backstraight, the ultra impressive Maskina got to the front and was probably the guts of 15L ahead of Charme De Faust at this stage and wasn't for catching but rounding the home turn Felix deGiles was still sitting quiet enough on the filly and only went after her at the 2nd last. She made a horror mistake at the last but still swiftly got on top of the eventual 3rd and 4th horse.
On finding out she was exported this morning I did some side-by-side time comparisons of the boys and girls race, and from the jumping the 1st hurdle down the back straight at the same time (Charme De Faust & Proactif) the below picture shows how they finished which is pretty much side by side. This was off level weights (CDF will get the fillys 7lb allowance in the future) and taking into account the horlicks of a blunder at the last, she was definitely good value @ 50/1 w/ cashout taking into account Proactif is ~12/1.
….presume that was with BFSB, now 16-1.
16s nowAs posted in my Diary,
Charme De Faust - Triumph Hurdle - 50/1
Reasoning:
Given a very educational ride through the Prix Finot, this Goliath Du Berlais filly settled at the back of the field throughout the majority of the race and was steady enough at her hurdles whilst edging out a touch right but warmed up nicely as they went out on their final circuit. Down the backstraight, the ultra impressive Maskina got to the front and was probably the guts of 15L ahead of Charme De Faust at this stage and wasn't for catching but rounding the home turn Felix deGiles was still sitting quiet enough on the filly and only went after her at the 2nd last. She made a horror mistake at the last but still swiftly got on top of the eventual 3rd and 4th horse.
On finding out she was exported this morning I did some side-by-side time comparisons of the boys and girls race, and from the jumping the 1st hurdle down the back straight at the same time (Charme De Faust & Proactif) the below picture shows how they finished which is pretty much side by side. This was off level weights (CDF will get the fillys 7lb allowance in the future) and taking into account the horlicks of a blunder at the last, she was definitely good value @ 50/1 w/ cashout taking into account Proactif is ~12/1.