August ‘24 Yankee

[Exar Essay]

Inthewaterside might fall into this category too. They were really keen on him after his bumper season but he didn't really excel over hurdles last season. He might be a different proposition over fences.

Agreed. He was very backward last year but did start to learn on the job. I've not given up on Welcom To Cartries either, who looked a similar type.

I can imagine similar novice hurdle campaigns incoming for Captain Bellamy, Teeshan, Quebecois etc. too.

We all know Nicholls trains them for chasing and bumpers and hurdles are just part of their education, but I thought it was interesting to hear a little bit about what that means practically when UTA went to visit Nicholls a couple of years ago. Nicholls mentioned that he does very little speed work with them. I am sure there is more to it, but that did interest me and is probably why most of his look like they need a trip.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Paul Nicholls:

If I had to put my money where my mouth is, I’d say Regent’s Stroll is the smartest of our bumper horses to go novice hurdling next season. He was very good in his two bumper wins at Ascot and Newbury, and he’s a cracking horse to look forward to. I’ve already schooled him; he jumps well, and he could be our Gallaghers (Baring Bingham Novices’ Hurdle, Cheltenham Festival) horse for next year.

Not sure exactly when he made this comment but was something I saved probably April time.


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Quote is correct but it was Harry Cobden, not the fat man.
https://www.racingtv.com/news/harry-cobden-horses-to-follow-over-jumps-next-season

 

[Lobos]

Paul Nicholls:

If I had to put my money where my mouth is, I’d say Regent’s Stroll is the smartest of our bumper horses to go novice hurdling next season. He was very good in his two bumper wins at Ascot and Newbury, and he’s a cracking horse to look forward to. I’ve already schooled him; he jumps well, and he could be our Gallaghers (Baring Bingham Novices’ Hurdle, Cheltenham Festival) horse for next year.

Not sure exactly when he made this comment but was something I saved probably April time.


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Excellent work. That will save a few from splitting stakes.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Excellent work. That will save a few from splitting stakes.

If you take it as a given then it should save everyone from backing him at all. He’s no Gallagher horse in my eyes. :boxing:

 

[Lobos]

If you take it as a given then it should save everyone from backing him at all. He’s no Gallagher horse in my eyes. :boxing:

Yep, with you on that one. Given up long ago backing anything to beat the Willie Bandwagon in that race.

 

[Saxon Warrior]

if you take it as a given then it should save everyone from backing him at all. He’s no Gallagher horse in my eyes. :boxing:

I'd agree, it's not as if the trainer making those comments has won that particular race recently.

In fact he's never won the race.

Even Denman got beat in it.

I'm happy enough to look at his in the UK with no Irish competition up until March, winning Graded NovH's.

But it's another level to suggest he knows he has got the Gallaghers winner, in the spring the year before. :eek-new:

Though he does tend to target the 2M4F Newbury Grade 1 well enough, at the turn of the Year, but there's little depth in British NovH pre-Christmas to be fair (John McConnell, Gordon Elliott and Charles Byrnes like to come from Ireland, and win Novice Hurdles here in October, November, December)

Never say Never, though.

 

[Eggs]

…hopefully, MoM confirms his return this month.

 

[Exar Essay]

….Kopek des Bordes is one for serious consideration this month. Very positive mentions in the diary section from Saxon Warrior and JackieMoon33 backed up by Spectre earlier in this thread.

25-1 widely available for Sup and Gall, a debate to be had as to target.

I’d suggest leaving him until the stable tours. There’s another route potentially being considered for him at the moment.

 

[Eggs]

I’d suggest leaving him until the stable tours. There’s another route potentially being considered for him at the moment.

…and I’ve just remembered, we have included him already.

 

[JackieMoon33]

I’d suggest leaving him until the stable tours. There’s another route potentially being considered for him at the moment.

Keeping to bumpers?

 

[Eggs]

Keeping to bumpers?

…..not sure how that works if he won a valuable bumper last March.

 

[Saxon Warrior]

…..not sure how that works if he won a valuable bumper last March.

For Champion Bumper, it's all age related, and number of Bumper runs before Cheltenham

Must be 4yo-6yo, and 3 runs max in Bumpers

 

[Lobos]

I’d suggest leaving him until the stable tours. There’s another route potentially being considered for him at the moment.

Flat campaign?

 

[Eggs]

…..hoping MoM returns to the fold in a weeks time but we could do with somebody on stand-by to make the selections just in case he doesn’t.

Hopefully won’t be needed but if anybody is happy to step in, then it would be appreciated?

in the meantime, keep the nominations coming, darlojim is there anything in the Triumph market worth chancing?

 

[HoldenTheReins]

…..hoping MoM returns to the fold in a weeks time but we could do with somebody on stand-by to make the selections just in case he doesn’t.

Hopefully won’t be needed but if anybody is happy to step in, then it would be appreciated?

in the meantime, keep the nominations coming, darlojim is there anything in the Triumph market worth chancing?

I think we should leave it to markets that most bookies have up, no?

 

[nortonscoin200]

I’d suggest leaving him until the stable tours. There’s another route potentially being considered for him at the moment.

That sounds ominous...

 

[darlojim]

From a Triumph perspective, probably best to wait until more markets come up, especially since a few shortened up the other night so prices arent as generous

 

[somer1]

…..hoping MoM returns to the fold in a weeks time but we could do with somebody on stand-by to make the selections just in case he doesn’t.

Hopefully won’t be needed but if anybody is happy to step in, then it would be appreciated?

in the meantime, keep the nominations coming, darlojim is there anything in the Triumph market worth chancing?

Happy to have a read though if no one else wannts to do it Eggs

 

[Eggs]

Happy to have a read though if no one else wannts to do it Eggs

….cheers, Matey, that’s much appreciated.

let’s work on 30th Aug, if MoM doesn’t return on that day we’ll have a somer1 wager.

 

[darlojim]

…..hoping MoM returns to the fold in a weeks time but we could do with somebody on stand-by to make the selections just in case he doesn’t.

Hopefully won’t be needed but if anybody is happy to step in, then it would be appreciated?

in the meantime, keep the nominations coming, darlojim is there anything in the Triumph market worth chancing?

I'd actually go back on what I said this morning and wouldnt be against putting 1 up for the Triumph now, the likelihood is the price will only go one way but it is the obvious caveat that only Sky, PP/BF and Uni have it priced but Willy de Houelle @ 16s and you'll be somewhere close