2024 Triumph Hurdle (Juveniles)

[ComplyOrDie]

I'm just going to keep backing Bunting @ 18/1 (boosted) for 4 places.

More rain coming which will suit and for me he didn't get a great ride at the DRF when staying on for 4th. I think he'll struggle to win as he seems to take a little while to get going but he'll be staying on at the finish that's for sure. I'm hoping they either go hard up front, or he Sean O'Keefe rides him from the front if a slow pace in the race.

 

[Hurricane fly]

Bat and ball have firmly been picked up and taken home.

It would seriously make me consider having horses with him



if I had horses of course:biggrin-new:

 

[JackieMoon33]

What exactly is the point of that with geldings? I don't get it at all. Don't mean your comment, I mean the potential mindset for doing that.

It’s the prestige of having unbeaten horses in your care, especially those at elite level. It matters more to some but Henderson is one of those trainers that values it.

 

[Eggs]

….was hoping for the FJ January Yankee;

Storm Heart at 7/1 (Triumph)
Fact To File at 4/1 (Browns)
I Will Be Baie at 25/1 (Albert Bartlett)
Ballyburn at 4/1 (Ballymore)​​

Never mind.

 

[Zachx02]

Don't think salvador mundi is next years supreme horse off that

 

[CJW]

Don't think salvador mundi is next years supreme horse off that

No I don't think so sadly, would give another chance though, wouldn't completely give up with him yet. Didn't think he had a chance today and he's finishes 6th. Could be worse.

 

[darlojim]

Don't think salvador mundi is next years supreme horse off that

Wouldnt be so sure..

There'll be plenty of improvement to come with him, he hasn't had a smooth run through with it this season with niggly issues.

 

[Exar Essay]

I must say I'd not be put off by that at all. Travelled well enough and he's finished 2 lengths behind Storm Heart, 3 lengths behind Nurburgring and 3 lengths ahead of Bunting. I think the front 2 are very good and the 3rd has run some race too, making most of it. Willie has literally just said in his post race interview that all of his are coming on for the run this season also.

 

[That Horse]

Wouldnt be so sure..

There'll be plenty of improvement to come with him, he hasn't had a smooth run through with it this season with niggly issues.

Any idea what the 'issues' are/were that Salvador has had this season?
It's more that which could put me off for next season rather than his run today.

 

[darlojim]

Any idea what the 'issues' are/were that Salvador has had this season?
It's more that which could put me off for next season rather than his run today.

nothing major, just small issues

 

[CJW]

Brian said a horse for next year. Confident nod. (Salvator Mundi) post race interview

 

[Craigy14]

I must say I'd not be put off by that at all. Travelled well enough and he's finished 2 lengths behind Storm Heart, 3 lengths behind Nurburgring and 3 lengths ahead of Bunting. I think the front 2 are very good and the 3rd has run some race too, making most of it. Willie has literally just said in his post race interview that all of his are coming on for the run this season also.

Exactly this, look what the winner just did haha!

 

[DenmanSacre]

Just rewatched this. Majborough found plenty in what looked a well run race in those conditions.

Racing Post with a provisional RPR of 144 which is the lowest rating for the last 10 years when factoring in the sex allowance. They currently have the front 3 last year all ahead of Majborough and Kargese. That contrasts to Simon Rowlands who has it joint 2nd highest since 2009.

He's got so much potential and hopefully they put him over fences next season and up in trip - I can see him lining up in that Limerick race at Xmas and I don't see many I'd fancy up against him in the likely conditions.

Ruby and Willie seem to love him as well.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Just rewatched this. Majborough found plenty in what looked a well run race in those conditions.

Racing Post with a provisional RPR of 144 which is the lowest rating for the last 10 years when factoring in the sex allowance. They currently have the front 3 last year all ahead of Majborough and Kargese. That contrasts to Simon Rowlands who has it joint 2nd highest since 2009.

He's got so much potential and hopefully they put him over fences next season and up in trip - I can see him lining up in that Limerick race at Xmas and I don't see many I'd fancy up against him in the likely conditions.

Ruby and Willie seem to love him as well.

I’ve said it a few times but I really think Sir G, Maj and Kalif Du Berlais are going to be golden age of chasers in the next few years.

 

[CJW]

I’ve said it a few times but I really think Sir G, Maj and Kalif Du Berlais are going to be golden age of chasers in the next few years.

As Sir G has been mentioned (still sore) Where's his future now? Aintree then Fences next season?

 

[Guinness Village]

I’d imagine that they’d go slowly with SG and stay over hurdles next season. Novice chasing as 5/6 yo
either way looking forward to seeing him fit and well again

 

[JackieMoon33]

As Sir G has been mentioned (still sore) Where's his future now? Aintree then Fences next season?

I’m not sure they’ll all go chasing next season to be honest and it wouldn’t surprise me if one of them are held back a year and given a 5yo campaign over hurdles. Nicholls sent Clan and Frodon straight novice chasing so I’d imagine Kalif Du Berlais would follow suit.

 

[DenmanSacre]

I’d imagine that they’d go slowly with SG and stay over hurdles next season. Novice chasing as 5/6 yo
either way looking forward to seeing him fit and well again

I'd say this will sadly be true. Henderson wasting a year of his career unless he takes him to France to win the 4 year old grade 1s that are there for the taking. Henderson has zero imagination though so we'll see him winning some crap grade 2s or 3s in England before being smashed in the Champion Hurdle. The Arkle is there for the taking next year.

 

[Hurricane fly]

I'd say this will sadly be true. Henderson wasting a year of his career unless he takes him to France to win the 4 year old grade 1s that are there for the taking. Henderson has zero imagination though so we'll see him winning some crap grade 2s or 3s in England before being smashed in the Champion Hurdle. The Arkle is there for the taking next year.

How many 4 year olds thrive in open company?

He's seen a race track 3 times, even Defi who raced 6 tjmes
struggled his 5 year old season. I think more will follow Mullins plan with Lossie and have a quiet season and I think long term for the horse it's the best thing. Even Espoir D'allen when he won the CH only really raced against horses his own age in his second season before his CH win.

Novice hurdlers seem to be trending towards being 6 at the festival not 5 so you're putting him in against horses that are 2 years further down their development even in a beginners chase (for example). And I would disagree that the Arkle is wide open, it's more than reasonable to expect to see Slade Steel there and his form is as solid as they come.

 

[Garrison Savannah]

How many 4 year olds thrive in open company?

He's seen a race track 3 times, even Defi who raced 6 tjmes
struggled his 5 year old season. I think more will follow Mullins plan with Lossie and have a quiet season and I think long term for the horse it's the best thing. Even Espoir D'allen when he won the CH only really raced against horses his own age in his second season before his CH win.

Novice hurdlers seem to be trending towards being 6 at the festival not 5 so you're putting him in against horses that are 2 years further down their development even in a beginners chase (for example). And I would disagree that the Arkle is wide open, it's more than reasonable to expect to see Slade Steel there and his form is as solid as they come.

Totally agree. It’s only 2 runs ago his jumping was very poor. He has a great engine but his body hasn’t caught up with him yet. Bring him on slowly and let his body grow into his frame.